
Joaquim Levy
Economist and former Minister of Finance of Brazil
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Aug 6, 2026
AI in a burning world: who pays the climate cost?
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Sara PantulianoHOST
How do you see this interacting with global cooperation? What risks and opportunities does it create for sustainable development, equitable development pathways?

Joaquim LevyGUEST
I would say even, I mean, in Europe, you're struggling to compete with the US.

Joaquim LevyGUEST
In a way, it's interesting because, of course, there's no real sovereign AI anymore.

Joaquim LevyGUEST
If you think about the process, you have NVIDIA in the U.S., you have the machine maker here in Amsterdam, and then you have the final fundraisers in Taiwan.
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Fiona MacklinGUEST
We really need to hear the voices of people and how they want AI to be used within government, within corporates, because it's been interesting seeing the trend in the US with now 40 percent of people sort of or voters at least telling pollsters that they don't they don't want unregulated ai they really really want to sort of see ai being taken away from government systems so i think there's a really interesting dynamic kind of dynamic energy emerging between citizens and governments and citizens and and public sector in this space and we need to be quite careful of that um otherwise we'll sort of erode trust and government systems altogether um So thinking about how we can really incorporate the voices of citizens in AI governance formulation, I think will be really critical in the next, I say a few years, but it's going to have to be a few months that this is going.