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Fiona Macklin

Aug 6, 2026

4:53
How are governments currently approaching AI? Are climate and energy implications actually part of that conversation yet or are still largely
5:03
absent? Thank you, Søren.
5:05
Thank you for having me.
5:07
I think they're completely present, but they are also still being figured out as we go.
5:11
I think there are three trends that I'm really noticing amongst the conversations that we're having with apolitical and our public servants and governments around the world.
5:19
The first trend is a real curiosity.
5:21
So 95% of the public servants who are using AI that we work with are saying they really believe that AI will have a transformative and positive effect on their work.

11 MINS LATER

16:42
But are people really thinking of the trade-offs, especially in resource-constrained environments?
5:17
What is it?
5:18
Look, I, I, I think...
5:19
I mean, first of all, um, the, the wildfires are terrifying, and I think considering these a, a new normal shouldn't be the case.
5:25
It's not normal.
5:26
It's so far from normal.
5:28
Uh, and I do agree with George that I think the, the majority of the population really feels that way.
5:33
I think the, the issue is that often they are not vocalizing that fear as much as they should do.

7 MINS LATER

12:22
Fiona, has the government, and not just this government, but other governments, been really bad at putting out incentives, financial incentives for us, you know, to live greener lives, be kinder to our planet, burn less fossil fuel, and, you know, either get financial incentives or, I don't know, I mean, other things that people might appreciate other than just thinking that we are doing something that is good, which should in itself be enough but isn't, obviously?

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