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Aug 6, 2026
AI in a burning world: who pays the climate cost?
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Sara PantulianoHOST
How are governments currently approaching AI? Are climate and energy implications actually part of that conversation yet or are still largely

Fiona MacklinGUEST
I think they're completely present, but they are also still being figured out as we go.

Fiona MacklinGUEST
I think there are three trends that I'm really noticing amongst the conversations that we're having with apolitical and our public servants and governments around the world.

Fiona MacklinGUEST
So 95% of the public servants who are using AI that we work with are saying they really believe that AI will have a transformative and positive effect on their work.
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Sara PantulianoHOST
But are people really thinking of the trade-offs, especially in resource-constrained environments?
European wildfires RAGE: Are politicians fanning the flames?
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Fiona MacklinGUEST
I mean, first of all, um, the, the wildfires are terrifying, and I think considering these a, a new normal shouldn't be the case.

Fiona MacklinGUEST
Uh, and I do agree with George that I think the, the majority of the population really feels that way.

Fiona MacklinGUEST
I think the, the issue is that often they are not vocalizing that fear as much as they should do.
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Matt FreiHOST
Fiona, has the government, and not just this government, but other governments, been really bad at putting out incentives, financial incentives for us, you know, to live greener lives, be kinder to our planet, burn less fossil fuel, and, you know, either get financial incentives or, I don't know, I mean, other things that people might appreciate other than just thinking that we are doing something that is good, which should in itself be enough but isn't, obviously?