So we need to be going to the space where they are and working in that space.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

One thing I have learned over the years is that informal consent is much more than just signing a form, which many people think is that.

You know, you make to be sure that families truly understand what is happening.

And I often tell my residents, what is our job here? Our job is to translate medicine.

I tell them that, you know, we are translators.

And I usually tell to my residents, you spend years learning this medical language, but...

But if we don't have trust because of the misinformation out there, tell me how are we going to combat that misinformation and improve the understanding of maternal and newborn health to the public? so that we can get to the space you are all talking about of shared decision-making.