Yeah.

Yeah, it's funny because, I mean, God, I'm pulled in like five different directions with all the fascinating stuff you guys just laid out.

Obviously, one of the things being like, I get that thing of like, I'm writing about a woman artist and I'm going to compare her to a man because...

this crazy thing happens in writing where women only get compared to women, right? And so I often find myself thinking, I think that it can be helpful, but again, it can be both.

I mean, she's kind of like Joanie in some ways.

She's similarly complex in her musical deafness and the way she's playing with harmonic structure.

That is sort of like Joanie.

And like, that's, that's very powerful.

What do you guys do to address that specific issue of not having boots on the ground in terms of leadership in Florida?

Yeah, well, and so Dre and I are both, we're 50-50 owners.

We're very opposite when it comes to a lot of like our personality and our beliefs and strategy.

Like we are very, very opposite from each other on a lot of things.

So- If we don't agree on something, we just don't make any changes.

We're like, hey, I see this this way, you see this this way.

If we can't agree, we'll just keep it as it is.

Same thing happened at Proof, by the way, when I left.

Can you talk about your discovery of her music and the impact it made on you and why you picked this film?

You know, listening to Judy's music, I think that the relationship that I've had with it has lasted a few decades now.

I remember hearing Judy in the early 2000s.

I was part of, you know, message board culture where people would trade MP3 links and stuff like that.

So I had... you know, managed despite sort of growing up in weird rural Arizona to plug into like the online record nerd, you know, community or whatever.

And the particular one that I was part of was sort of adjacent to sort of a weird Christian rock label called tooth and nail or velvet blue music, these two different labels that shared some similar artists.

But so a lot of times stuff would have a theological bent or whatever that got passed around.

has

Fantastic guy.

Yeah, and he was excited when I talked to him because, you know, 2012, I don't know exactly how this falls in the sort of Beach Boys retconning of like stuff because, you know, it's like a lot of the stuff wasn't considered cool for a super long time and some of it came back into vogue.

But I feel like at that time I was really interested in asking him about the sort of shaggy Beach Boys of the early 70s, like the stuff we talked about.

Sure, sure.

Carl and the passions kind of side of things, because I think Al, he emerges as one of the strongest parts of that stuff.

So I was excited to go back with him.

And the cool thing about that's why God made the radio, which, you know, obviously there's a lot to get into.

Like, This first chunk basically, I think, feels consistent with the idea that you've got so far presented.