Fantastic guy.

Yeah, and he was excited when I talked to him because, you know, 2012, I don't know exactly how this falls in the sort of Beach Boys retconning of like stuff because, you know, it's like a lot of the stuff wasn't considered cool for a super long time and some of it came back into vogue.

But I feel like at that time I was really interested in asking him about the sort of shaggy Beach Boys of the early 70s, like the stuff we talked about.

Sure, sure.

Carl and the passions kind of side of things, because I think Al, he emerges as one of the strongest parts of that stuff.

So I was excited to go back with him.

And the cool thing about that's why God made the radio, which, you know, obviously there's a lot to get into.

Like, This first chunk basically, I think, feels consistent with the idea that you've got so far presented.