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James Uthmeier

James Uthmeier

Florida Attorney General

Oct 17, 2026

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We do see a lot of people that are up to mischief during these troubling times.
0:06
We've been making it very, very well known that people that want to loot and steal right now, when you have evacuations and people without power, there are some evildoers out there that want to break in and steal things from homes.
0:21
There's heightened penalties during states of emergency and hurricanes.
0:25
If you do this, you're looking at a first degree felony up to 30 years behind bars.
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Don't do it.
0:31
We prosecute to the fullest and we take this very seriously.
1:42
But I'm just wondering, has your office gotten a bunch of reports of people trying to gouge?
1:48
As of my last update within the last hour, no, nothing yet, which is great.
18:02
Do you think that they will model the, the similar age bans to House Bill 3?
18:07
3?I think so and I hope so.
18:10
I think other states have, uh, they've woken up a little bit later perhaps than we did here in the free state of Florida, and they recognize, uh, the real harms that, that these devices are having on kids.
18:21
Uh, in Florida, we're, we're happy to lead the way.
18:23
We like to build a blueprint for others to follow.
18:26
Uh, and, and I'll tell you, Dr. Phil, we, we- we've gotta kick it into a stronger gear as we see technology advancing further with AI.
18:36
Uh, we brought a civil and criminal investigation into OpenAI ChatGPT after finding that ChatGPT was being used, was being consulted for advice on how to, you know, engage in self-harm, commit suicide.

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Y- this is personal for you as well, I would think.
27:00
Have you had someone say something to you that you've said, oh, I've got to make a note about this?
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Every day.
27:06
Really? Every day.
27:08
Yeah.
27:08
Somebody told me they were booking a flight and, you know, their family member was sitting next to them and they were looking at the app for the airline and then they logged out and they logged back in.
27:18
And all of a sudden the price has gone up for them, but not the person sitting next to them.
27:22
And so as we've been investigating, we now see, all right, there's some of this.

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So
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Uh, who or what is TP-Link, and, uh, what is the concern there for the residents of your state?
99:23
Well, TP-Link is one of the technology companies we've been investigating here in Florida.
99:28
We launched a, a new China unit about a year ago after, uh, discovering many companies have such strong ties to China that private consumer data here in the univer- in the, uh, United States of America, uh, intimate, personal data, surveillance, was possibly being hacked and taken to China.
99:49
Uh, TP-Link is a company that sells routers, modems, cameras, and other computer hardware, and we see strong connections to China.
99:58
Products are manufactured there.
100:00
Uh, we see evidence of hacks by Chinese nationals.
100:03
Uh, they attempt to, uh, argue that they move through a, a plant in Vietnam, but, uh, most of the parts are not made in Vietnam.

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Now, what's the remedy in this lawsuit? What are you, what are you, what are you asking the court to do?
6:02
the, the suit stands with regards to Meta here.
6:05
Well, Meta settled with every other state out there but Florida.
6:08
Uh, in total, about $13 billion, uh, payable about a billion dollars a year.
6:13
That might sound like a lot of money, but this is a trillion-and-a-half dollar company.
6:18
Uh, when you look at the tobacco settlements from 30, 40 years ago, 200-plus billion, uh, when you look at the fact this is merely a couple weeks of revenue for them, uh, that's a slap on the wrist.
6:28
That is not a real punishment.
6:30
That does not send a message to big tech companies that if you hurt our kids, you're gonna have to pay for it.
7:38
Tell us about that.
8:30
What is this all about?
8:32
Sure.
8:32
We're, we're a pro-business state.
8:34
We want businesses to do well and succeed, but not at the expense of our children and public safety.
8:40
Uh, here in Florida, as you said, we, we believe in parental rights.
8:43
We believe it's a parent's God-given right to manage the education, upbringing, and healthcare of their children, and unfortunately, here we see that several years ago, Netflix deceived parents, uh, into believing that the behaviors, the mannerisms of children on the platform would be private.
9:01
Uh, but the evidence, uh, overwhelmingly suggests that the opposite has happened.
11:14
Is that accurate?
37:19
Are you also gonna look for deeper changes here, uh, from, uh, from Meta and its behavior?
37:26
Oh, yeah, you're dang right we will.
37:28
Um, this did not go far enough.
37:30
Um, I...
37:30
Look, a- anything that's limiting the access that the kids can have to these apps, especially in the middle of the night, uh, capping it at, at two hours, which possibly could become one hour, these, these are steps in the right direction, uh, but it's not enough.
37:43
We need true age verification, number one.
37:46
Minors should not be allowed on these platforms that have sexually explicit, harmful content, uh, you know, addictive features.
38:59
What's the process for the free state of Florida?
38:51
Are you also gonna look for deeper changes here, uh, from, uh, from Meta and its behavior?
38:58
Oh, yeah, you're dang right we will.
38:59
Um, this did not go far enough.
39:02
Um, look, a- anything that's limiting the access that the kids can have to these apps, especially in the middle of the night, uh, capping it at, at two hours, which possibly could become one hour, these, these are steps in the right direction, uh, but it's not enough.
39:15
We need true age verification, number one.
39:18
Minors should not be allowed on these platforms that have sexually explicit, harmful content, uh, you know, addictive features.
39:25
Uh, here in Florida, we've passed legislation to limit access by younger kids.
40:44
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Mika BrzezinskiSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
3:05
Was it, uh, money? Uh, was it terms? Something else? All the above?
3:12
Yeah, all of the above.
3:13
Look, this was not a good deal for the states, and that's why Florida wasn't a part of it.
3:18
Uh, we are not gonna sell out when it comes to child safety.
3:20
We're not gonna capitulate.
3:22
Uh, it might look like a big number, but this is a trillion and a half dollar company.
3:27
This is a rounding error that should not get them off scot-free for over a decade of harms to our kids.
Mika BrzezinskiSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
4:15
Attorney General, um, on how much Florida would receive if you did agree to this current settlement?
34:47
Uh, James, was it, uh, money? Uh, was it terms? Something else? All the above?
34:54
Yeah, all of the above.
34:55
Look, this was not a good deal for the states, and that's why Florida wasn't a part of it.
34:59
Uh, we are not gonna sell out when it comes to child safety.
35:02
We're not gonna capitulate.
35:04
Uh, it might look like a big number, but this is a trillion and a half dollar company.
35:09
This is a rounding error that should not get them off scot-free for over a decade of harms to our kids.
37:19
Uh, what would you like to see them do to the model? Uh, what, what, what in terms of the product, forget the settlement amounts, what, what would be satisfying to the state, to the extent you can talk about this?
65:13
You know, by the fact that the State of Florida is now looking into him, does that justify his claims at all?
65:18
Well, I, I, I think you said it right, that the pardon itself, uh, has questionable legal authority.
65:24
Uh, who knows what President Biden, uh, actually knew was taking place, and if there is an auto pen without proper agency, there could be issues.
65:33
Uh, but, you know, we, we were certainly alarmed by his lack of candor before Congress, his inability to answer questions.
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All of that occurred simultaneously, uh, with new evidence, uh, that he did doubt the very mRNA jabs that he was pushing.
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So, uh, the, the federal pardon will not give him immunity from state issues.
65:54
Uh, we've got a lot of evidence to go through and collect.
67:18
So of what has been put into the public view so far, what do you think Americans should be most troubled about?
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It seems more and more damning evidence is coming out.
20:18
Uh, we went up to Washington after the revelation came out where, uh, we now know Dr. Fauci privately...
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By the way, I don't even know that we should be calling him a doctor anymore given some of these abuses, but, you know, Fauci's privately questioning, uh, the safety and efficacy while perpetrating the greatest deception our country has ever seen.
20:38
Uh, I, I had a great meeting with Senator Johnson up there moments later.
20:41
Um, you know, it's discovered that we have thousands and thousands of text messages now, uh, this is the first back and forth of many that will likely come out, uh, that further reinforce the notion that he lied to everybody.
20:54
Uh, this was not an accident.

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Like, you, like, we're going to, we're going to use this as an opportunity to say, to draw, draw a line in the sand for families and women who are pregnant.
8:30
How, as a state attorney general, do you go about a criminal investigation into all of this, and what are the things specifically that you're looking for in terms of potential charges?
8:42
Sure.
8:42
Well, if a lot of this is proven true, it shows that, uh, while acting as a government employee, and, and yes, there are immunities and a lot of legal protection for government employees, but while in that position, he's saying a lot of things that he knows to be false.
8:58
The...
8:59
It's clear dishonesty, deception.
9:01
Uh, there's injury.
9:02
That's the easiest thing to prove here.
11:08
However, I did tell people that got COVID, the one thing that seemed to show the most promise was something called monoclonal antibodies, and then after a lot of research, Florida was giving it to anybody that got COVID for free while they were being made, and that seemed to be the most effective treatment of all of them.
80:13
What was that about?
80:15
Well, in Florida, you know, schools have their vaccine requirements and schedules, but Florida state law, same law that every state follows, has exemptions that have to be provided for people that have a religious objection or a medical need for an exemption from the vaccines.
80:33
um it's come to our attention our office got a lot of complaints and outreach that florida's catholic schools ironically are not doing this now they're not public schools they're independent they're religious schools so they've got a lot of independence from the state for good reason sure but they still have to follow general legal requirements unless they cite that their religious teaching um you know disagrees with those requirements and there it's you know generally the state cannot override those religious tenets, again, for good reason.
81:03
But here, I mean, Catholic teaching is written down.
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It's universal.
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It's online.
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And for a long time, the Catholic Church has recognized right to conscience, has respected pro-life views.

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What is one, I don't want to use the word story, one case, one area of focus that is announced, it's out there, you're engaged in it, your office is doing it, that people just, it's not on the radar of most people, but it ought to be.
23:21
What happens next?
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That's right.
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We'll be going through, uh, the record, the record we have.
23:26
Uh, we're gonna send a plane up to DC and, uh, get any file they're willing to share with us.
23:31
Uh, look forward to working with Senator Rand Paul.
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I know he's eager to find accountability.
23:36
Uh, and then we'll have subpoenas out likely as early as next week looking into what Dr. Fauci knew, when he knew it, all of the statements and directives he made.
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Attorney General.
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Didn't you just have a judge come over the top and say, "No, no, we ha- we have to legalize the drugs for the teenagers at gas stations"? Can you explain this?
54:09
Yeah, we just imposed a new emergency rule.
54:12
Uh, it expands and, uh, goes further than one we issued about a year ago.
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Uh, you've got now this essentially gas station morphine.
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Uh, there's a plant from Asia called kratom.
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Uh, these businesses will extract, uh, uh, 7OH, which naturally metabolizes in very, very small quantities.
54:31
Uh, they will make it highly concentrated and create essentially synthetic chemical morphine.
57:51
So how do you non-California or Florida?
36:12
Give us your view of it, both just as a Christian who practices his own faith, but also as an attorney general who might be looking into whether these players were discriminated against.
36:23
Sure.
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Well, we need good leaders, strong leaders to stand up against religious persecution.
36:29
It seems every time there's one of these stories where one of these leagues and big corporations are silencing speech, it almost always is Christian or biblical speech.
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businesses have some First Amendment rights.
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They can impose rules on uniform requirements.
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But if they're disproportionately enforcing the law against Christian viewpoints and not others, then they're gonna have a problem under Florida law.
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Roblox is one of the biggest gaming platforms in the world, and I think a lot of parents simply aren't aware of how easy it is for adults to prey on children inside of Roblox.
9:46
Te-tell us more about what Florida has been doing when it comes to trying to protect just, just those under the age of eighteen, under the age of consent more generally when it comes to Instagram, TikTok, all of the above, James.
9:56
Sure.
9:56
Look, here in Florida, we want to keep government out of the business of business unless there's an emergency.
10:01
And when it comes to protecting our kids, we'll stop at nothing.
10:05
So we've gone after Snapchat, Roblox.
10:08
Uh, we recently brought a nation-leading lawsuit against ChatGPT and OpenAI, where it's clear that executives know that kids are suffering, they're experiencing real harm, yet they're choosing profit over public safety, over our kids.
10:22
Uh, they're making loads and loads of money, uh, while knowing that this problem exists.
14:20
Attorney General, I th- I, I think I might have cut you off accidentally, so I, I want you to, to finish your thought here when it comes to how you view technology here in the Sunshine State and how it relates to human flourishing and the common good.
9:27
A- OpenAI's ChatGPT is not social media per se, but are these cases sort of serving as a form of precedent?
9:35
These cases are serving as a form of precedent.
9:37
Uh, we, we see cases across the country where rulings are coming down from juries finding these big tech technologies addictive.
9:46
They're designed to be addictive.
9:48
They're designed with scrolling bars, push notifications, videos that start on their own, features that draw people in for hours on end.
9:58
I find myself at times, you know, scrolling and, and realizing, you know, that I'm, I'm wasting time behind the screen.
10:04
Uh, this is especially dangerous for young people with developing minds.
11:39
So how important is it for states to maintain some independence on AI oversight, if not regulation, then the ability to sue if they feel a state law's been violated?

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10:27
A- OpenAI's ChatGPT is not social media per se, but are these cases sort of serving as a form of precedent?
10:35
These cases are serving as a form of precedent.
10:38
Uh, we, we see cases across the country where rulings are coming down from juries finding these big tech technologies addictive.
10:47
They're designed to be addictive.
10:48
They're designed with scrolling bars, push notifications, videos that start on their own, features that draw people in for hours on end.
10:58
I find myself at times, you know, scrolling and, and realizing, you know, that I'm, I'm wasting time behind a screen.
11:04
Uh, this is especially dangerous for young people with developing minds.
12:39
So how important is it for states to maintain some independence on AI oversight, if not regulation, then the ability to sue if they feel a state law's been violated?
59:15
What's your response?
59:18
Well, it's a fluffy sounding statement that it sounds like ChatGPT wrote.
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Unfortunately, uh, it's just not true.
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Uh, people are getting hurt.
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People are losing their lives.
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Here in Florida, we're seeing countless cases, uh, where conversations between ChatGPT and human beings, uh, are educating, facilitating, and empowering people to go out and hurt themselves, commit suicide, uh, violently attack others, and in the worst of cases, uh, commit murder.
59:46
We even have a case here in Florida where a guy kidnapped, uh, students at the University of South Florida, murdered them, and was asking ChatGPT how to dispose of the bodies.
60:30
For example, the, the Florida Southern, uh, kill-... ex- example that you just gave, somebody could theoretically go on Google and say, "How to dispose of a body." What's the difference between that and ChatGPT giving the answer?
36:45
Uh, can you give us an update on this?
36:47
Sure.
36:47
Well, everybody knows the case of Harbinger Singh down in South Florida where unfortunately three people lost their lives as a result of this individual, uh, being given a CDL license, not just an average driver's license, but one to drive a large, heavy-duty tractor trailer on the interstate.
37:06
Um, turns out that he failed the test many times.
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He could not, uh, speak English, could not read road signs, uh, and thus the- the- the dangerous U-turn that he took in the middle of the interstate, um, is not that surprising.
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Uh, we're prosecuting him.
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We got a great state attorney down on the case.

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Attorney General?
36:17
Explain for us why that's significant and what your letter said.
36:20
said.Sure. Well, the Rooney Rule, which has been around for a good little while, uh, it requires NFL teams to, uh, interview a number of minority candidates before hiring non-minority candidates.
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It requires some, uh, assistant coaching positions to be filled by minorities or women.
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It actually goes so far as to say, uh, if you have minorities, um, you know, that advance into higher coaching positions from your staff, uh, there's a scenario where you can be awarded additional draft picks.
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So teams are clearly, um, required to violate Florida law.
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We have a civil rights act that's been on the books for decades.
37:03
Uh, you cannot discriminate against people based on the color of their skin, based on race when it comes to hiring and advancement.
39:43
What, what is the status of that, uh, detention facility, and, and how would you say the cooperation level, uh, i-is going with federal authorities for ex... for, uh, lawful, uh, deportations to be occurring at the pace that the administration is, is seeking?
3:45
Explain for us why that's significant and what your letter said.
3:51
Sure.
3:51
Well, the Rooney Rule, which has been around for a good little while, uh, it requires NFL teams to, uh, interview a number of minority candidates before hiring non-minority candidates.
4:04
It requires some, uh, assistant coaching positions to be filled by minorities or women.
4:10
It actually goes so far as to say, uh, if you have minorities, um, you know, that advance into higher coaching positions from your staff, uh, there's a scenario where you can be awarded additional draft picks.
4:23
So teams are clearly, um, required to violate Florida law.
4:27
We have a Civil Rights Act that's been on the books for decades.
7:11
What, what is the status of that, uh, detention facility, and, and how would you say the cooperation level, uh, i-is going with federal authorities for ac-- for, you know, lawful, uh, deportations to be occurring at the pace that the administration is, is seeking?
26:40
There seemingly was this thought at the onset by, uh, the AG Ellison, uh, by Governor Walz, that they would just be able to dismiss this, you know, sweep it under the rug, say, "We're, we're investigating this." And then it, it kept getting so bad that now they're like, "Okay, well, we're, we're investigating too and we're getting tough." And, and, uh, what should a state be doing in a situation like this? If you came into this situation as Attorney General, what would you do?
27:13
Well, I think every state needs to be conducting significant oversight right now.
27:17
I know in, in Florida, we certainly are.
27:19
I mean, we've started with our own DOJH operation several months back that's highlighted, um, you know, billions of dollars in fraud and wasteful spending at the local level.
27:30
A lot of city and county commissions that are abusing taxpayer dollars, uh, often with illicit means.
27:38
Uh, our Office of Attorney General has a Medicaid Fraud Unit, uh, that continuously goes out and, and looks at recipients of funding and ensures that money's going where it needs to be going for the right reasons.
27:51
So, I think states have a, a major duty to their taxpayers to shine a light, follow the money, and ensure that we're not engaged in, in wasteful spending and abuse.
30:58
I, I think at times he can be a victim of his own success, moving so quickly, having so much success, people kind of forget and are like, "What have you done for me lately?" From your perspective as the Attorney General of the State of Florida, uh, the impact of, of Trump's policies, what has, uh, the, the leadership there, what has it meant for you? What has it meant for your state?

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