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Herman Bril

Herman Bril

Executive Board Member - Investments at Pensioenfonds ABP, the Dutch pension fund for government and education workers (since January 2026).

Aug 19, 2026

Constantijn van OranjeMODERATOR
17:47
Where can you deploy that money in Europe at scale? So where is your conviction for Europe? If you look
17:51
at the venture capital market in Europe, it's highly fragmented.
17:55
You have deep pockets of expertise and know-how and technology and talent.
18:00
But they're all spread out, right? And if you go to the U.S., it's much more clustered.
18:04
So it's easier for you to invest in the U.S.? So you want to...
18:07
Well, it's better organized in the U.S., which is one capital market instead of 27.
18:13
It makes it, you know, easier.
19:48
It's not only about doing fancy things and saying that okay i was there it's also about phantom shares it's also about becoming rich at the end say like that as well

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