Because I sometimes see that the founders are really driving and then as the company goes bigger, they lose that because they have to

drag and they have to pull and...

That's, yes, you are right, that's unavoidable.

But when the people enter, most of the people enter in a startup at quite young.

Some of them just coming from the university.

They do what they are told, okay? And that's relevant for you to tell them, okay, we have to do that.

But they have to, they must see what they are going to get at the end.