Henry, when it comes to AI, China and the US, they have very different goals, don't they? On the US side, it's all about the risk and slowing down, um, but in China it's about winning that race.

Yes.

I, I think first of all, you know, the, there's a lot of tech, uh, executive, uh, attending this banquet.

That's just exactly, uh, what's the pragmatism of, uh, President Trump is about.

He's a businessman.

He knows what the business needs, and he knows that how important it is intertwined, uh, between US and China, and if US wants to develop well, uh, they, they have to, uh, have China as a business partner.

So that's basically the business voice, uh, has been prevailing, uh, which is a- which has, has been, you know, the success of all those mega companies.

Henry, how would China feel about this? Is this actually a win?

And if you could maybe, uh, speak to our audience a little bit about, um, what you meant by that.

Yes, because, uh, recently we've seen a lot of, uh, uh, you know, terrible acci- accident happened.

You know, just yesterday I saw Australian Prime Minister complain that OpenAI has, has, uh, break into the Australian [laughs] you know, system.

Uh, the Australian government protest that.

And of course, uh, some, some time ago, you know, a week or two, that we have executives resign from Anthropic and the, and then, uh, saying this is too dangerous, uh, to continue.

And after that, you know, three [laughs] CEOs, uh, from, from, uh, from, you know, the OpenAI, from Anthropic, and of course, uh, also, uh, Elon Musk, e- e- everybody said, "Okay, uh, uh, let's slow down the AI development.

It's too fast to be controlled." And, uh, and recently there was a, there was a, an incident that, uh, also the US, uh, uh, you know, some companies in, uh, California actually, uh, cracked into a WeChat payment system, uh, which, you know, uh, uh, 1.3 billion people using that WeChat payment system.

Um, wrapping up here finally, could you share a little bit more to our audience about the work that you're doing at CCG and where the listeners can read more about, uh, your insights?

The Western-led global order.

Yeah.

But that concept is really ill-defined.

It was not really clear.

We never have a clear definition of what composed the West.

But I think talk about China, absolutely.

The system works in China very well.

I think there could be much more common ground than we all assume.

Mm.

That's why I'm, I'm very impressed with, uh, Trump, President Trump brought, uh, you know, 17, uh, biggest company of US to come, and that they are all very bullish, actually.

They are very s- saying a lot of things positive, uh, from Elon Musk to Tim Cook to, uh, Jason Huang.

All, all those people are really very positive or highly bullish.

So I think it's, it's a good start because given that, uh, uh, President Trump announced at the Great Hall of People that President Xi gonna visit United States on September 24, uh, and Foreign Minister Wang Yi actually confirmed today there, there is going to be the visit.

I think, you know, we are just, uh, in a full round of talks, uh, summits.

We finish the first round, and then there are going to be a September round-

This has to be an international effort because we have to have consistent standard policies.

And I'm curious if globalization is thought of the same way in China.

Well, I think that, uh, uh, uh, in China because it was a latecomer...

You know, uh, uh, for example, you see the globalization in the 19th century, which is, uh, uh, you know, uh, Britain r- re- invented the steam power.

That led the Industrial Revolution in the 19th century.

In 20th century, American invented the, you know, internet computers and, and digital and, uh, US has led in the 20th century.

I think 21st century Chinese, uh, is also, uh, you know, coming up now.

For example, on green power, China is leading on EVs, on the... on the solar panels and, and also the wind power and all those things.

But I, I'd be curious, like, what sort of questions do you get on a daily basis from, uh, the average Chinese person about America and what it's doing?