in

this case, almost six years.

So even though it's only been on the Air 4, there's all the developments.

You're living, breathing it for a long time.

And we're still living and breathing it even today.

I mean, it doesn't go away.

I'm still dreaming it.

But, but was that, was that hard to, to figure out the balance of that character?

Heather, I see that you were an actress back in early 70s, mid 80s, and was acting your passion or was it always writing? Yeah.

I just liked being on camera.

And I also got a chance.

I mean, it was a journey for sure, but I finally got a chance to produce something of my own.

And I started writing simply to show the real writers what I thought we should do.

And I began to think, this is what I really like.

I love producing.

We got everything we need, you know, walk up the hill and, and it just was not, there's no way, there's no way Kat or Alice or even Elliot would, would leave that pond alone for