And what is its goals now? Has it achieved its goals? What's

its...

What we're doing right now is, for us, immensely satisfying.

It's, as Bernard clearly said, that we have a passion for these extraordinary objects and have loved them and studied them and appreciated them for many years.

However, as with anyone, our years are numbered.

And we wanted to have assurances that this collection, these works, will continue on after us.

So we began several years ago a process of donating the collection to museums around the country.

Why?

And so how did the Enamel Arts Foundation then, where is the genesis of this organization in the middle of all this?

Even before that, as we began to pursue the research and visit various museums, gather a lot more information, and we were able to kind of replicate what we did in Cleveland to almost every museum that we visited, from the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York to the Rhode Island School of Design Museum in Providence.

to the Wichita Art Center in Kansas, we were able to kind of look at what they had in their collection, gather as much information as we possibly could.

And we learned about important exhibitions that had taken place in many of these institutions, about their own history of showing some of this material in the early years shortly after much of it was created.

And we really gathered a body of information that we felt was a really significant gathering of material.

How was the information

There was just the title of the work, the mentions and who owned

it.