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Gretchen Primack
Gretchen Primack is a poet, educator, prison-education administrator, and animal-rights activist based in New York's Hudson Valley, and co-founder of the March to Abolish Animal Testing.
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Sep 23, 2026
DAY 3: March 2 End Animal Tests
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Ella MajorsGUEST
And that's one of the big purposes of this march is to keep the attention on it, keep the pressure high and to show that we're not just letting this fade away, that we are gonna stay on top of this until our objectives are met and ultimately animal testing is ended in this country.
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8:06Gretchen PrimackGUEST
yeah i mean i wasn't hit with rubber bullets but i did take my friend sarah to the emergency room for rubber billet injuries after the action at ridgeland she is now here she's here with us marching you are absolutely right jane this is a different tenor this is something else that's my dog charlotte i apologize um But, yeah, we wanted a different tenor.
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8:33Gretchen PrimackGUEST
We wanted this to be really about the march along the way and about telling Marshall that we do not need to set foot on their property to put them on notice and to raise consciousness that what they are doing is unacceptable.
Day 1 - First Stop: March vs Animal Tests
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35:03Gretchen PrimackGUEST
So first of all, for those of you celebrating Rosh Hashanah today, Happy New Year.
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35:07Gretchen PrimackGUEST
I cannot think of a better way to usher in a new year than by acting to make the world a kinder place.
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35:41Gretchen PrimackGUEST
And when our website went live for the March to Abolish Animal Testing, the very first person to make a donation was my father.
The Hen Report: “Give Us That Last Mile” | March to Abolish Animal Testing
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Jasmin SingerHOST
you know it is the it is the uh second person or like the it's the first person who stands up is like vital but it's the second person that creates the movement i know absolutely you know what i mean like it yeah yeah
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10:01Gretchen PrimackGUEST
yeah yeah um so for the food you know we did tell everyone we are not you are responsible for your own food right just to put that out there so that people could start thinking about what are they going to bring um and then we put out guides for where are their supermarkets where are their vegan friendly restaurants you know at each stop we have support drivers who can take people places but at the same time it's important that people who may not have planned well enough or are here the entire time also have access to think that's where like very heavy snacking of that we bought nuts and trail mix and chocolate and protein bars and popcorn and you know and every day some of that gets put into each of the support vehicles and then what there are water stops and rest stops along the way We'd come out at that point and people sit down with the sandwiches they brought.
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11:00Gretchen PrimackGUEST
The other thing is that on our first night, we wanted to have stuff for people so that when they got off that first night of marching, they were not looking for a restaurant.
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28:39Gretchen PrimackGUEST
And we're in a transitional point right now because we have the technology to pivot this industry, right? Not entirely at this moment, but we could just do it and make it work, right? So we can have laws change.
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28:58Gretchen PrimackGUEST
We can have government agencies change their policies and still do the work that we have to do.
March for Animals 2026: Walking In New York for the World
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28:22Gretchen PrimackGUEST
Now, this includes people, first of all, only the ones who have actually registered.
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Mark HelpsmeetHOST
Any insights you care to share or just admit to your work there that what you were able to or not able to achieve?
March to Abolish Animal Testing with Gretchen Primack & Ella Magers
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18:44Gretchen PrimackGUEST
They have 30, almost 30,000 pigs, ferrets, and cats, all of whom are languishing there in what's essentially a factory farm.
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Victoria MoranHOST
Is that going to be dismantled? Is there anything in recent history that we know of that was that big and that complicated that was dismantled? Or is this going to be a first?
The Hen Report: “We Won” | Ridglan Closes & the March to Marshall BioResources Begins
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Jasmin SingerHOST
Can you just, for anyone who isn't familiar, can you kind of give the brief version of what this next action is that you're alluding to and what the next part of the fight is?
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13:01Gretchen PrimackGUEST
Even while we were still at Ridgeland, there was already talk about pivoting next to Marshall Bioresources, which makes Ridgeland, that hellhole, look like a quaint little bodega next to a Walmart.
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13:33Gretchen PrimackGUEST
So with the success of Ridgeland in the media, in culture, the understanding that we might be at a tipping point when it comes to animal experimentation and how folks feel about it.
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13:48Gretchen PrimackGUEST
We decided to go big and pivot to, you know, the super Walmart of animal experimentation breeding facilities.
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13:56Gretchen PrimackGUEST
And right away, I had this idea, which I spoke about exactly one month ago today on our henhouse.
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Jasmin SingerHOST
So what kind of support do you still need? And you mentioned people could get in touch with you via Instagram, but also just tell us what Instagram handle.
The Hen Report: “Moments of Respair” | Beagle Rescue, Animal Activism & Do We Need Hope?
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Jasmin SingerHOST
Like, is this a good, is this a strategic way of getting people to awaken to why we need to shut down all slaughterhouses?
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6:23Gretchen PrimackGUEST
One way is that anybody who was involved in the action, even if they only came because they care about dogs and they would eat a hamburger, you know, in general, theoretically after a rescue like this.
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6:48Gretchen PrimackGUEST
There were vegans in every one of the small groups, so those conversations were happening.
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