So that idea of punk I think is something that is just incredibly inspiring and continues to inspire so many people all over the

world.

Polystyrene and laurologic in x-ray specs, phenomenal.

Jordan in the ants, Kleenex, gay advert in the adverts, for example.

You know, these women are all, they're all very creative and half of them have been ignored for most of their life.

Let's fucking cause a bit of shit

Little girls should be seen and not heard.

For Gina Birch, it became the method, allowing uncertainty, awkwardness and disorder to remain visible instead of hiding them beneath polish.

Martin's College of

Art? It was at St Martin's, yeah.

And I'd just come down to London to look at the different art schools.

And a lot of it is like fate, you know.

You happen to be in that place at that time.

And then it happens, you know.

I went back to Nottingham and then came down the following autumn.

What are you going to play now? We should say that it's called Cello Song and there is a cello on it, although not in the room.