We have more human flourishing.

I could give you a little alpha if you'd like on this topic.

Yeah.

Let's do a little alpha.

So I'm in the process of writing a piece on energy in Venezuela for the next issue of Bitcoin Magazine, the physical edition of it.

So I've been doing a ton of research around a region of Venezuela called the Caroni Basin.

So in this basin, they currently have three functioning hydroelectric dams that are producing upwards of 10 to 11 gigawatts of power.

it for my normie friends i'd be like yeah i'm gonna go down to venezuela for a week and people be like what are you even thinking like yeah right i mean i'm pretty confident it's straight because of all these people that are you know with me or around me and so on yeah and it'll just be an amazing time so yeah

Yeah

... you feel like Rocky Balboa at this point.

You just keep taking punches, and we keep getting back up.

It's a collective Rocky B- Balboa sentiment, the whole Bitcoin space.

Um, yeah, I, I, I wanted to see it resolved well.

I think it resolved pretty well.

Obviously, 600 missing Bitcoin is going to be, uh, a bit of an issue.

Yeah.

All right, Frank, go ahead.

Yeah, no, I wanted to add some color to the Stephanie Kelton stuff.

I spoke with her at the screening of a movie she-- a documentary that she was a part of.

I think it came out about a year and a half, two years ago, something along those lines.

Screening here in New York, and I went there to ask her questions afterwards, and she was on a whole panel with a whole bunch of people that were also MMTers and everything else.

And when I asked her about what John just said, this idea of when the government creates all this money, it's just this sort of public good.

I think their idea is just inherently this extremely socialist idea of, "Oh, no, it's great because all that money's just out there.

It was an interesting one because I think Bitcoin people might agree with some of that, but then the MMTers come to a, a completely different conclusion.

so that our audience can just understand what it is that we talk about when we talk about this whole topic.

A hundred percent.

Something came to mind right away.

It was the moment that I decided to 100% fully devote myself to Bitcoin.

I had already been working in the industry, but it was like a spiritual moment for me.

I was interviewing a gentleman named Luthando Nobambi.

Luthando basically is like the head of community engagement for Bitcoin Akazi.

So in your sort of... time in Bitcoin and, you know, we'll call it the time in the rabbit hole, right? There are sort of other technologies that have emerged, open source, Noster, AI now, you know, people like to talk about like the sovereign stack, right? Do you see sort of these technologies swirling around each other? Have you noticed some sort of I don't know, the starter kit, we'll call it, of like sovereign people in these communities? Or is it still very nascent? Or maybe it is, but maybe you're still seeing it.

And with just a few days to go, he's thinking about how this year will be so different from all the previous ones.

So Bitcoin is the separation of money and state, so it feels a little bit weird to have so many representatives from the state, quote, unquote, "there." We have a number of high-level speakers.

We have the-

During a break in his anchoring duties, he said now that we're here, the hug seemed even tighter than he'd expected.

Uh, uh, a lot of politicians are here.

I think this idea that Bitcoin is no longer a countercultural thing, it is now just a part of the mainstream, it's part of the political process, the vibe has shifted.