How do you think it impacts the training process to be like the favored team to win a certain medal? Do you think it adds more pressure? I

think it definitely adds more pressure.

I think external expectations are just something that are really hard to shake off.

Like we always want to have no expectations, but I feel like it's almost humanly impossible to not have some form of expectation, especially when you're competing and you're being judged and you walk away with like a numerical placement.

I finished first, I finished third.

So, you know, if you start to finish first and then next competition, you kind of don't want to go backwards.

You expect to finish first.

What do you hope to accomplish in that role?

What were some of the things, the actions you took to get you to that feeling when you stepped on the ice?

I think failing was a big part of it.

We had failed before.

Even at the Olympics in 2018, we completely failed.

belly flopped in the middle, like right on the Olympic rings.

We found ourselves face down.

And I think going through that experience and then understanding that we can handle difficulty, we can handle failure, makes failure less scary.

They call it

What were some of the things, the actions you took to get you to that feeling when you stepped on the ice?

I think failing was a big part of it.

We had failed before.

Even at the Olympics in 2018, we completely failed.

belly flopped in the middle, like right on the Olympic rings.

We found ourselves face down.

And I think going through that experience and then understanding that we can handle difficulty, we can handle failure, makes failure less scary.

They call it

Mm-hmm

... and to also trust, um, just to tr- to let go.

Like, when we first moved to Montreal, and we had new coaches, and they were, they completely approached our work in a completely different way and really respected us and gave us the space and, and the leadership.

But something that our coach kept saying to me was, "Let go.

Man, just, you need to let go," like, in a certain, a, a certain way, just kind of like release that grip and that hold of wanting control over everything.

So for me, I, I think the trust of letting the, uh, everyone around you play their role gives you the more power to play your own role.

I agree.

That's wonderful.