Yeah.

I think people will turn up because there's curiosity there.

Whatever you think about them, I think there's a lot of curiosity.

Um, I think it's really interesting that they've been so public in announcing this, given all the security concerns, um, that they've cited, and obviously I feel they must feel competent enough, uh, in the arrangement, whatever that is, to be able to go out and do that in the first place.

You know, it's only a few months since Harry said he didn't feel it would be safe for them to come back to the UK at all.

Um, h- bearing in mind everything we've been talking about, and bearing in mind everything that's been going on the last years and in the 50 days, how did you find him? Sitting there talking to him, interviewing him, did he feel like a different person? Did he feel happy? What's, what was your perception?

I think it was really interesting.

He genuinely seemed very happy.

What do you reckon?

I mean, it was like night and day, wasn't it, compared to the sort of whitewash statement he made after the court, uh, judgment was handed down in the case against Associated.

This was really interesting 'cause it was a bit more of the Harry that we all sort of knew and loved back in his heyday as a member of the royal family.

Um, something that he's actually railed against himself and said, "You know, actually I was always seen as the joker." I felt like he was leaning into that side of his personality a little bit in both those shows.

Although interestingly, I think certainly the, uh, James Corden one had been planned for before his visit to the UK.

Um, but I would imagine that his team are very keen to sort of move on from that war of words with the palace, and then also the statement, um, you know, calling out the judge actually and-

Do you recognize this character that we saw with James Corden and-

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, how significant, um, was this trip actually for Catherine?

Well, it was huge on a personal and a professional level because it was the big milestone in terms of her return, post cancer treatment, um, to the world stage.

But also from a professional point of view, it was really about her taking this-

It's something that she very much does with the children

... definitely does, and likes learning new skills.

Um, but I think it's something we're seeing increasingly on royal engagements, whether it's the King and Queen, um, or Kate and William.

They are doing more, and that's great for, uh, for TV pictures, I have to say.

I'm wondering what role do you expect these tensions to play in this visit, if any?

Well, it's a brilliant question and one we have all been asking.

Obviously, the king is above politics.

He's our head of state, not our head of government.

So really, these aren't the kind of topics we expect him to be discussing.

However, we know that President Trump has made clear that he will raise issues with the king.

But the palace have been very careful about this.

How could Epstein color this trip?