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Drew Gutstein
CISO and security engineer at Gutstein Security Works, LLC (New York), formerly led FedRAMP compliance for Google Cloud and served as CISO at Hudson River Trading.
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Oct 15, 2026
AI on Trial: Safety, ROI and the Engineering Work Ahead
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16:13Mike VizardHOST
But are we actually seeing a, I'm going to throw this to Drew, a return on those investments? And then my other question, though, is at the end of the day, does the ROI matter as much as everybody's making it out to be? And I'll dive into that as soon as Drew gives his view.
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16:31Drew GutsteinGUEST
So a bunch of the articles in this section are really kind of delving into like, where's the savings, right? And I think there's like a couple different ways to discuss.
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16:44Drew GutsteinGUEST
What I'm considering here is, as a company, I've given AI to my employees, and now they should be saving me money somehow.
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16:58Drew GutsteinGUEST
So in that sense, when technology companies are buying these tools, they get all these promises, it's going to save you this much money a year, and blah, blah, blah.
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Can AI Agents Cooperate? Health Evidence and the Huawei-Qualcomm Deal
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1:45Drew GutsteinGUEST
I've been joking for a while now that like the future world is going to be based purely on tokens.
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