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Robert Reeves
Co-founder of Liquibase (formerly Datical), database DevOps executive and recurring Techstrong Gang panelist.
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Oct 15, 2026
AI on Trial: Safety, ROI and the Engineering Work Ahead
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32:01Mike VizardHOST
Robert, is there some kind of justice in all of this in your mind, or what's going on here?
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32:07Robert ReevesGUEST
Well, what I took from the article is that we had a leader of a bank come out and say, we have security issues and we need to fix that.
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32:20Robert ReevesGUEST
I was like, is this opposite day? What's going on when a CEO comes out and says, we've got so many bug security issues and we're fixing it.
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32:38Robert ReevesGUEST
And it's certainly, you know, I think we were talking about this last week on TechStrong or the week before about, you know, we're going to have this, you know, big group of security issues as AI finds them initially, and eventually they'll go down.
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32:56Robert ReevesGUEST
But it's really important that as we fix things, I would hope these engineers that are coming in to fix security issues would start with a test to validate it, start with test-driven development first, and to use AI and make sure that it is following best practices that human engineers follow.
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33:20Robert ReevesGUEST
If AI has found a security issue, let's look at the rest of the code and see if it's there and create a test case for every single application to check for this so we don't get it again.
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AI Election Influence, Security Backlogs and the SAP Agent Test
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17:57Mike VizardHOST
Robert, are we losing this battle? Are we going to win this thing? Or how do you see this all playing out? Because I'm kind of scratching my head, looking at the math a little bit and going, this doesn't bode well.
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18:11Robert ReevesGUEST
I actually take this as a positive, all right? Because, you know, there's a few things that come out here.
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18:17Robert ReevesGUEST
One, more vulnerabilities are being found and you do not improve As an individual, as an organization, as a society, by ignoring your problems.
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18:33Robert ReevesGUEST
The second is, is that there is that backlog, that acceleration of fixing these is increasing.
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