You never know how it's gonna pay off.

So he called out of the blue.

I knew he had moved back to San Francisco.

Dan and I had seen him a few times And, um, we also knew that he was really close friends with Linda Ronstadt.

And, um, he called and said, "You know, Linda's ex-manager, Peter Asher, has a brand-new cabaret show that he's trying out, um, and he's performing it tonight in San Francisco, and she's got a spare ticket.

Do you wanna come?" And my first question was, since I didn't know who Peter was, I said, you know, "Can I sit next to Linda?" And, and that was my main goal.

So I went.

[laughs] You know? I also think that if you kick a door down early and it, and it opens up to an incredible possibility, that als- that'll lead, um, more often than not to many really good possibilities rather than closing them, uh, closing them off.

[laughs]

It, it's, uh, [laughs] the, it, the, the biggest costs in a movie like this have to do with, as you would well know, um, music rights.

Uh, that, uh, music rights and archival clips, uh, because they're, they are essential to the movie.

And I think in our films we don't play coy by trying to do fair use and play three seconds of a song.

We want people to feel the songs of those eras.

So the actual production, putting that aside, is, is, is reasonable.

It's not, it's not an enormous amount of money.

But I'm not, so you have to." [laughs]

What did Peter Asher see in Linda Ronstadt that maybe the average person wouldn't have seen at the time? I think

he saw something that everyone saw.

I think he just, what he says in the film is, because Linda had been performing for about eight years, and she'd had a hit, but then she was kind of fumpering along, and she, you know, would sometimes do country and sometimes do rock, and I think the world wants you to be known for one thing.

thing and also she's gorgeous both you know her voice and her physicality and and really opinionated and I think people weren't listening to her and one of the things that I find most moving the moments in the film that I find most moving is Peter says it's not when people give me credit for quote-unquote discovering Linda Ronstadt or being a genius around Linda Ronstadt it's like really all it was was listening to Linda and no one had done that

yeah that was kind of interesting he sort of does not want to talk about that part of his life why was that important for you Dana to include in the film

Well, many reasons.

One, a lot of people don't know about how important Betsy Asher was.

That, you know, 13-year period that they were together, first of all, they met and she was already in the music business, right? And she introduced him, he introduced her maybe to the British Invasion, and she introduced him to the village sound and the folkies.