Definitely a, a moment that I never thought I would, I never thought I'd be doing close air support with a rescue helicopter with a .50 cal, which is very, very rare, you know, but it happened naturally on my first CASEVAC ever.

I was on the first crew.

There were two planes and two crews sent, and I was on the first batch to arrive in October 2014.

None of us had, as far as I'm aware, maybe one or two on the two crews, had ever seen, you know, gunfire, especially at night.

And so you have all these training sessions where you're talking about how to announce to the crew that you've, you're under fire and what kind of your maneuvers might be to, to deal with that.

But first of all, we're Air Force assets and we, we haven't really seen that type of thing before.

And so you'd see arcane tracer fire from various types of weaponry on the ground, and it looked like it was coming up on an angle and then coming back down.