so i want to talk about that that mind-body connection you know what it can look like when we've been stuck in patterns of stress for a long time and how you know having support can really help us begin to understand and unravel what we need to heal but let's start with you first you know like tell me about you what led you to establish the healing room and you know what was your journey with all of this

Oh, my goodness.

This is a very long story.

We're going to try to keep it short.

OK, so I've been in this business for 18 years now, which is crazy to me.

Started in that that is a journey in itself.

But the way that I came into massage therapy, it was not my intention.

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