What is the opening slot of a tour? What is the reality of that slot?

Well, I feel like it just depends on, first off, it depends on are you acoustic, are you full band? We've done it both.

I mean, we've played shows with all kinds of big artists, and we've done full band shows, and we've done the acoustic stuff.

And honestly, I would say the biggest thing is, I think Jeffrey said it best, honestly.

It doesn't matter if there is just a few people out in the crowd when you go out or if there's 10,000, 15,000 people.

You have to play like nobody's heard you and nobody has any idea who you are.

And if you go in with that mindset, then I feel like you're always going to win because I think the biggest compliment is – when we're out on the road with bigger artists in there and they're watching their show but then at the end of it they said i had no idea who you guys were but next time you're in town we're coming and we're bringing people and that's the goal at the end of the day that's what you've got to do to you know to build that fan base and to get people coming back so i would definitely say that and just never get discouraged on because i mean it's tough it is very tough even when you get to the point that you've always dreamed of getting to that point, it never stops.

Thank you so much.

Mm.

And we're really glad that Maddie and Tae were able to do that one so we can get to enjoy their version.

They did an amazing job.

But yeah, when we saw The Climb we felt like that's a song that we- we've always wished we could put out.

And so now thanks to Disney we can.

And, and we're just so happy we got to do it.

No, you go ahead.

Ep- it was epic.