So Clint's gonna bring us back to some of the things we've been seeing specifically in the marketplace, um, as of late.

I think everybody recognizes that the last eighteen months has been a little bit challenging when it comes to raising money or, uh, bringing in revenue, particularly if that revenue has a source at a federal grant level.

You combine the pullback and the pauses in federal grants with the market uncertainty last year that the tariff situation certainly caused amongst many of our funders and led to a lot of challenges.

There was less dollars coming into these, into markets around the country.

You were seeing increased community need creating this additional strain and, and more and more nonprofits out trying to fill, you know, kind of fill gaps and, and find money from new places.

You know, grants had, had certainly been under assault.

It's starting to quiet down.

Ultimately, all of this is about, you know, building confidence and trust with your volunteers, giving them the tools that they need to feel confident, prepared, and supported.

Brian, why don't you take this, and I'll add, too?

Yeah, so that...

It, it's a conversation that goes back about four years.

And Clint and I had never met, and were both working.

Convergent was working in Northern Kentucky.

Clint was working in Cincinnati.

And so I just shot him an email and said, "Hey, let's..." I live in Atlanta.

What, why is that?