And what are your feelings on this, Claire, in terms of that kind of strategy going forward? Are you concerned that it could draw resources from those rural areas?

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, the problem we have with rural crime and policing rural crime, is the fragmentation between different forces at the moment.

And the criminals take the advantage of that because by passing over boundaries, often some forces are good on rule of crime and some just don't bother.

Where it works well, it works really well on a local level.

We're looking at local WhatsApp groups, resurrection of the farm watch type groups, you know, and having local police officers that are invested in rural crime and recognisable faces.

You know, the further we draw away from that, the less engagement you will get from farmers and really worrying.

In terms of kind of that relationship with the police, how pivotal is that in terms of trying to tackle rural crime? Well,

And they reported similar with what you were saying about the cattle, especially older cattle, that if there was something else with the cattle, then it was proven to be fatal in

some cases.

And it's a very reasonable ask of government.

You know, we're not looking for a payout.

You know, there's nobody who's going to profit from this.

What we're looking at, we have got a horrific situation already with the fact that we don't have enough forage.

We've had a dreadful summer.

Yeah, not next week, but today or the day after or very soon this week.

The testing presumably would be better deployed elsewhere.

I think there's two parts to that, isn't there? I mean, we're, we have-- I think any vet down there now should be able to do a differential diagnosis to know that this is bluetongue, and they can do that not necessarily, uh, by going through the APHA testing.

Uh, so I think yes, that would definitely free up resource for other areas as it goes up the country, as other hotspots are developing to redeploy that APHA resource there and get that testing there.

But the second part of that is what I don't want is that those farmers are left behind relying on private testing to be paying for that.

We have to make sure this is a level playing field.

So however you are testing, let's make sure the farmers aren't taking that burden cost-wise.

But in terms of resource and men on the ground and ladies on the ground, yes, they do need to be moved north now.

For next year and, and, and people just health planning, I mean, it brings the whole necessity to do proper health planning on farm and risk assessment, doesn't it?