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Chuck Thigpen

Oct 21, 2026

6:53
Mm-hmm.
6:53
What was the clinical context in that study? Can I replicate that, right? Look, I, I think about some large health systems like Intermountain that does outstanding work and a lot of, you know, really, uh, industry-leading work has come out of there.
7:07
And I don't have all the things that system has, or Kaiser, for example, that does really interesting things.
7:13
I don't have a payer that wraps around all of my clinics and can say, "Hey, you're at risk, and because of that, we're gonna practice in a different way.
7:21
I'm gonna pay you differently." Like, that's not a real world when you get across everywhere.
7:25
So I think those are the competing factors that then set up.
7:29
And I, I, I give that as in a context, come back to your question of how do you balance the two? And I guess I think about evidence gives me the guardrails of what acceptable practice is, and then the, the art of it is, can I actually interact with you to understand all the factors that fit together to come up with a treatment plan that's best for you? And I think that's challenging 'cause, uh, most therapists are probably like I am.

12 MINS LATER

19:25
Mm-hmm
26:05
But from a clinic perspective, that might be something interesting to look at.
26:09
Yeah.
26:09
And along those kind of maybe if it wasn't triple hop, but there's other...
26:14
And again, I won't mention any brands and names that are out there, but there are brands and names that tell you they have normative data, which I have lots of...
26:22
Yeah, exactly.
26:23
So I, I think from a researcher perspective and setting and doing this times, I think, um, love to hear it.
26:31
Vertical jump, for example, that you could do on said force plate, um, in a lab.

17 MINS LATER

43:57
So that's why I sort of hinge on the term visual cognition.

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