Um, so having said all that, uh, can you-

Well, you gotta, you know, I mean, this really cuts into what I do, is that we sort of go through our lives, um, sleepwalking.

There's so much going on around us that we just filter out.

There's so much going on, um, in, you know, just in our lives that, you know, that we repress, that we, you know, that we just ignore.

Um, and that's what got me started with looking at the film because I kept noticing all these symbols, uh, popping up, these, these things recurring.

And it occurred to me that there's another discussion going on beneath the, uh, surface.

The, the, the plot is telling certain people one story, and then the symbols are telling people another story, uh, you know, underneath that.

[laughs] Sorry.

And to me, it immediately floats up the question, what are some of the other misconceptions that you encounter with businesses that you work with around cybersecurity, security, even just basic password stuff? What are some of the ones that you see most frequently?

Yeah, that's a great question, and there's a lot to unpack there.

I'll try to be brief, but there's so many layers and levels of things here that we want to touch on.

First of all, my goal with anybody is to be their trusted advisor.

Like you said, I bring the experience to the table.

We work with dozens of vendors that we vet, but there's hundreds, if not thousands, out there that you could go direct with, and then you have to piecemeal it together, manage it, trust that they're doing their job, Our team, what we're designed to do is help you bundle everything into a package.

Basically, it's a monthly package you pay for.

Um, again, 10,000 miles across a hundred miles high, um, How do you guide any of your clients? I know I'm asking an impossible question, but what are some of the things you tell them to be aware of? What are the vulnerabilities? What are the things, I don't want to say that keep you up at night, but that you want to make them aware of about AI? Well,

Yeah.

Sure do.

Sure do.

I, I, I actually kinda feel like, um, we're gonna have a, an Obi-Wan phenomenon.

I think that Gordon's, um, presence and his, uh, reputation are only gonna grow from here on in.

I think that, um, a lot of people are gonna discover his work who hadn't before, and I also think it's gonna be like, you know, a clarifying moment.

Like, which side of the line are you on? You know, are you on that side or, you know, the side of the angels? So I, I think that, um...

Yeah