So for Carolyn and Martha, I'm wondering if you could talk to me both about what the experience was like, even in those, I guess if we can call them nascent stages of seeing what was happening, and then also about your own participation, like how you decided to participate in the film.

Thank you for the filling in the back story about Matt Krause.

When he sent this list to superintendents around the state, sort of out of thin air, and we saw the titles that were on the list, a few of my colleagues and I, we'd already been working together because of the previous bills that you mentioned, and just trying to put together some workshops to prepare librarians for what to do.

And then when we saw that and our governor sort of doubled down on it and said, you know, we've got to get pornography out of libraries.

It signaled a whole new direction they were taking this.

And we felt like we had to stand up and represent the truth about diverse books and school libraries and the work librarians do.

And that's really how we started.

And I think maybe that's all I can ask for at this point is that they're still thinking about it, which might indicate that they haven't closed their mind entirely.