it's only 17 years

yeah i mean we talk about um the public-private partnership, which dates back to that 1925 meeting.

There's a lot of stories and tension there.

But here's this pretty tiny non-profit, when sued, National Park Service, who are trying to pull off Killington, who own private land deals.

orchestrated by a guy that some of you may remember named Bill Barr, who later became Attorney General twice, and ATC won, thanks to people in Congress like Pat Leahy, Senator from Vermont, who got the from the Interior Department and a lot of things like that.

So those are the kind of, I mean, the acquisitions were really that in those years.

Turning back some of the stuff that people were doing on the side.

She started a year after me and retired a year after me, so.

Brian King.

I guess the futures market is a price discovery mechanism, kind of a central location because we have, you know, producers and users, end users, consumers.

Everyone has, um... or, or stakeholders in the commodities, and it just kind of centralize the price and have a price discovery.

Is it the price for everyone? No, because you got to move it from where it is to where it needs to be, the commodity, and so you have transportation costs and elevation and other factors, storage, 'cause, you know, harvest is one time a year, but there's a need for the product 12 months a year.

So we have to ration the inventory throughout the year based on supply and demand.

Brian King.

If everything's working like it should, it would never, you would never take delivery of the futures contract.

You would keep rolling it to the next futures month and, and it very rarely c- ends up being delivered.