But of the people that turned up, how many people were... do you think were already engaged in automation versus people who were, uh, deciding that this is something they needed to reach into, and, and having a local event opened a door for?

Oh, that's a good question.

I would love to have had that in a survey to ask them, to, to gauge that more specifically.

Um, I think the, the, the, the, the most conversation, conversational feedback I got during the day was the same that I got when we talked with newcomers from AutoCon.

We did not understand that these things was... could also be considered part of network automation.

That's basically...

It's the sa- it's the same story over and over again that network automation to a lot of people is about, how can I generate configs faster, and how can I then push it equally fast to a device? Done.

Why, why have we not seen more adoption of automation yet? You know, Chris' favorite question.