underestimate it?

No, no, didn't underestimate it.

But the amount of steepness did catch me off guard because, you know, Spartan just likes to hype some shit up a lot.

And sometimes they just overhype a lot.

Dude, West Virginia, I ain't never fucking had 4,000 feet in my life.

I've had 28, 32, 35.

I ain't never had no 4,000.

Luckily, Tim Mazur was there pacing with me.

Right.

And, uh, there was a guy, he took off in a hoodie.

Like, he had, like, a cut-off hoodie on, and it said, like, suffer something.

And I don't know why, I just picked that motherfucker of all people to hate him that day because he took off.

Like, I took off pretty hot, but he took off in front of me, and I was just like, I'm not getting beat by a dude in a fucking cut-off hoodie.

I was just like, this is not going to happen.

And I ended up passing him about a mile and a half in.

I think you can do sub-10 easy.

Yeah, as long as you don't

try to repeat it.

or repeat it again or repeat it again.

That becomes a problem and you really should get some professional help or seek some mentor or something.

Hey, I'm just messing up, help me.

And I think that's what a connection though.

If you got a mentor, you got somebody you know is successful in life or has a certain skill set and you're trying to level up, right? Trying to level up yourself.

Hall?

Yeah,

six.

Yeah, and then, dude, I came – I looked so bad coming in from the fifth lap.

But, like, after me and Lucas ran that lap, I had a little life in me, dude, because, like, he was pushing me pretty hard.

And I knew he was pushing probably a little more than I needed to push at that moment.

But it was like, well, you got to run the mile you're in.

If I got the legs right now, I need to push right now.

So back to the question, what would you do differently in the race? If you could do it again,

[laughs] Nope.

Oh, probably not, but, hey, dude, don't try to pick up hookers in there.

They don't think it's near as funny as we do.

[laughs]

[laughs]

I mean, that's, I, I can't, I ain't got no argument for that.

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