What role is the mass influx of migrants playing here? Because it looks overwhelmingly like these are migrants who are rioting.

yeah it's much like what you see in america where you have a more traditional hard left and then the way they've increased their political firepower is they take advantage of the fact that there's a lot of migrants and people of migrant backgrounds will vote heavily for the more left-wing parties, the parties that promise them amnesty, that they'll get to bring in their friends and family, that they'll get free housing, free healthcare, free everything else.

And there's a political alliance between them.

That far-left party, France Unbowed, Their leader, this guy, Mélenchon, I think is how you say his name.

He's talked about his political goal is the creolization of France.

And by that, he means import so many people from around the world that France loses any sense of having a specific ethnic, religious, historical character.

He has said people who identify themselves as French ethnically are part of the problem with his country.

Does the right wing party have any chance at mobilizing people who are upset about what's going on in the streets?

More, more, more speeches, better citizen-

Yeah, so getting to the censorship part in s- specifically, that I've always been a free speech absolutist, that I think, I think America's approach to freedom of speech that we've had, uh, thanks to some earlier Supreme Court decisions, is the best one in the world.

That freedom of speech is you can say anything unless it is actively fomenting a crime.

So I, you know, the classic standard I think is, uh, like imminently, you know, if you're imminently inciting a crime, I think the common one is you need two out of three of, like, specific persons, specific time, specific method.

I, I might be getting that a little wrong.

I'm not a lawyer.

But that unless you are really specifically inciting a crime or, of course, engaged in criminal conspiracy or libeling, defaming someone, you can be sued for that.

Mm

So just kind of take it away and tell us how we're going to honor our friend Charlie tomorrow in those locations.

Well, I first want to say.

It's an emotionally heavy couple of days, but I don't want to say it's rough precisely because one of my roles, I read a lot of the emails we get that are sent into our show, and really this week, I anticipate a flood tomorrow, but I've already seen this torrent of people's testimonies.

They're saying, thanks to Charlie, I got baptized last year after what happened.

Thanks to Charlie, we've had testimony of people who had children because Charlie inspired them, people who fixed their marriages, people who turned their lives around, people who got engaged politically or in their community or with their church for the first time in their lives.

And those keep pouring in, and I'm searching through our archives and seeing all the ones I'd missed during all of the chaos a year ago that people had sent in.

We can see how Charlie changed so many people's lives and the chance to have that shared remembrance with all of them is deeply meaningful.

Blake, just talk briefly about that growth.

Tell us what happened there.

So this was a state-level election in one of their former East Germany states, Saxony-Anhalt is how they'd say it.

And they had an election.

And first of all, it's bizarre because in Germany, they have a huge menagerie of parties.

It's proportional representation.

So AFD won by a mile.

They got, I want to say, 42, 44% of the vote or so in Saxony-Anhalt, way ahead of any other party.

Is it too late? At this point, when you've opened the floodgates and when you've allowed across the continent tens of millions of Middle Eastern and African migrants from third world countries to come in, is there any turning back? When you look at the population and when you look at the birth rates for these people, is it too far gone? It's not

Was it a shock to you? Was it something that you thought was impossible that it could happen? What was it like in the immediate aftermath?

I mean, what stands out to me, it does...

It's tough.

As you may know, I was there.

And one thing about it, it's almost like I was... meant to be there, because I usually didn't go to Charlie's outdoor events.

I'd help him prep for stuff, but most of them, I would usually go if it was an evening event, but for the outdoor tent stuff, I usually didn't.

But in that time, Charlie, he said, actually, you know, let's bring Blake along this time.

And we've got to learn those lessons from him and try to think about what he did to do that, to keep the coalitions together, keep all the families aligned.

Who should I talk to? Talk to us about Charlie Kirk and his drive to understand the modern world.

Exactly.

Charlie loved to point out that getting a degree didn't mean you learned anything.

And on the flip side that you could learn an unlimited amount without getting any degree.

We were joking in the office earlier that Charlie's hobby.

He'd get out after a long day of grinding at Turning Point and on the show and he'd go home and his way of winding down was to listen to Dennis Prager talk about the Bible or to do a Hillsdale College online course or to read whatever book he was getting into.

He was always acquiring more information, acquiring more knowledge.

Your closing thoughts are.

Who should I talk to? Talk to us about Charlie Kirk and his drive to understand the modern world.

Exactly.

Charlie loved to point out that getting a degree didn't mean you learned anything.

And on the flip side that you could learn an unlimited amount without getting any degree.

We were joking in the office earlier that Charlie's hobby.

He'd get out after a long day of grinding at Turning Point and on the show and he'd go home and his way of winding down was to listen to Dennis Prager talk about the Bible or to do a Hillsdale College online course or to read whatever book he was getting into.

He was always acquiring more information, acquiring more knowledge.

Your closing thoughts are.

Why is that so shocking to people? What is the Southern Poverty Law Center holding itself out to be, and what really are they?

Well, I would definitely contest that it's shocking.

I don't think any of us who followed it a long time think that it is.

But of course, the SPLC, they have presented themselves as a very different organization for a very long time.

Honestly, it doesn't hurt to go back All the way to the start, they were founded in 1970 or 71.

They have this name that's clearly intended to invoke other more famous civil rights organizations.

The Southern Christian Leadership Conference, SCLC.

So they've got something to raise money off of.

Oh, wow

... founded by Morris Dees, a master of direct mail.

So the SPLC's entire business model has been send hysterical letters to, uh, left-wing people in their homes and say, "Hate's on the rise.

The Klan is coming back.

There's national socialists on the march, white nationalists on the march.

They're gonna take over.

They're gonna do horrible atrocities.

Uh, but j- just so for clarity, is the center of gravity in the indictment basically saying, 'cause every night on MSNBC hate is on the rise, white nationalism's on the rise, white Christian nationalism's on the rise, it's because in their business model they wanted to make sure they juiced it to make sure it was on the rise, and that's why they're funding guys in the KKK, guys in the American Nazi Party, guys in these white nationalist organizations to basically do that so they've got something to raise money off of?

It was a terrorist attack by a Muslim."

Yeah, and we shouldn't forget also that they should've known this would be a problem because CNN already had to apologize for how they were describing it on, on X over the weekend.

Uh, they've, it- it's a network that has repeatedly had a problem with how it's framed things.

Uh, it's very bizarre to me that CNN was...

I- I feel like growing up, CNN's reputation was s- the sort of in the middle news outlet compared to Fox on one end or MSNBC as it, you know, was shifting to the left.

But, uh, they positively did lose their minds during, uh, the first Trump presidency, and they've never really found their footing again since then.

I believe they're the network of fiery but mostly peaceful protests.

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I'm not sure I've seen that in a while.

But also i- the big picture and the thing that overlaps with Katie and so many of these others who justify why this happened, there is nothing more toxic and more damaging, uh, than telling people, "You can be cruel.

You can do evil things.

And actually, it's- it's not even not a bad thing.

It's actively a good thing.

You should feel righteous while doing it.

And now that that's only gotten worse, you know, in the past couple of months, like, it's a such a tricky issue, and I have asked myself many times, "I wonder how Charlie would be handling this." What do you guys think?

And this, what's I've seen called boomer populist idea of just appealing to old people because they vote in very large numbers, um, by promising, uh, to scrap property taxes, is very off-putting to those young people who might be going towards conservatism or going towards the Republican Party or the MAGA movement.

Y- yeah, and y- I, I saw the sa- I think I saw the same article you're referring to, uh, by, by my, uh, friend Scott Greer, and yeah, he refers to it as boomer populism, and it's ...

the thing that might be a little worrisome is, I think, I think that there's excellent potential for it to be politically successful, at least in the short term, because it is true.

America has an inverted population pyramid.

We have more older people than younger people.

The median age keeps going up, and those people are also more politically engaged.

And so, I think it's quite possible these sorts of ideas will pass.

And this has been a kind of Republican talking point for a long time, but it's true.

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was very clear that this was the number two organization so it was really

difficult for decades the southern poverty law center has collected revenues well in excess of its spending in two thousand twenty two it collected a hundred and forty million dollars spent just a hundred and ten million for a surplus of thirty million it has as of when he was writing this in twenty three amassed a pool of assets totally more than seven hundred million dollars their lavish headquarters is nicknamed the poverty palace Even other more principled liberals find the SPLC completely loathsome.

In 1996, one of them called SPLC founder Morris Dees a fraud and a con man.

In a 2019 piece, former staffer Bob Moser said the group was, quote, ripping off donors and was essentially a con.

Well, the SPLC is headquartered in Montgomery, Alabama.

And then he makes a reference to the NRA, which is headquartered in New York State, got besieged by the New York AG's office.

They had an entire division of the New York AG's office that was basically get the NRA.

real quickly this all comes from the

What was it like for you, Blake?

You know, I think, uh...The moment I think a lot of people who were there are going to remember is actually right at the start, before any of the speakers come out.

Uh, it's just right at the beginning where they had all the different signs that were-

Yeah.

Another was the, uh, I think, "Well done, my good and faithful servant." Like, they had, they, they had a good selection of what was on the signs, and everyone just holding them.

The music is just the strings.

There's no one singing or anything.

And it goes for, man, it felt like it was five-plus minutes, everyone just sort of sitting there, like, marinating in the moment, and that felt very powerful.

What, w- will you d- describe what you did for Charlie?

Uh, I, I was a producer, uh, you know, helped get guests for the show, but also especially talking points, researching issues, you know, "What do we want to say about this?" And he would come to me, "Blake, you know, what do we think about this issue?" And, you know, Charlie was a busy guy, so sometimes it was my job to go and read the 400-page book about something so I can give him a 10-page digest of it later.

What were you going to say?

So I, one of the things Mikey and I agree we were really happy he got to do, uh, you know, one of the things about Charlie is he was so famous he'd had no anonymity anymore in America.

And he actually really liked going out on walks, and so we were actually in Asia just the weekend before this happened, and we were in Seoul.

And I'd been there a little bit early, I was going to a wedding for a friend of mine, and so when he got in I was like, "Charlie, the best way to understand the city, just kind of walk around and see how it's different." And so, you know, we were there.

He got in on a Friday, and so I think, uh, Saturday morning, uh, he just got up extremely early, 5:30 AM, and he just started walking around the streets of Seoul.

And for once he got to just wander a city, and he was just, uh, for most of the people there he was just kind of this, this foreigner wandering around their city.

What were you gonna say?

So I ...

One of the things Mikey and I agree we were really happy he got to do.

Uh, you know, one of the things about Charlie is he was so famous, he'd had no anonymity anymore in America.

And he actually really liked going out on walks.

And so, we were actually in Asia just the weekend before this happened, and we were in Seoul.

And I'd been there a little bit early.

That, you know, people loved to see it.

Stephen Miller is, Stephen Miller is saying seditious conspiracy, so yes.

Either way, uh, I mean, treasonous conspiracy...

Treason is defined in the Constitution, uh, as specifically levying war against the United States or giving aid and comfort to its enemies.

Uh, I think it would be a big stretch to suddenly just stretch that to ba- to basically just saying, "Well, they're, they're undermining the administration, and so that's treasonous." Frankly, that is exactly why we wrote, uh, that provision in the Constitution that way, because the old, the Old English governments loved to use the law that way, and the Founders didn't care for that.

I think it would be a big reach to try to bring a case like that.

Uh, and frankly, I just don't think it would work.

Uh, and I think it's also important to flag political difficulties to this.

A- and make your point, 'cause I think it's important.

Why don't you walk us through how, uh, Ukraine was able to execute what they're calling Operation Spider's Web deep into the heart of Russia?

Yeah, Andrew.

It's, it is genuinely a lot like, it's a lot like a movie.

It's also a lot like a video game.

Uh, that's pretty funny because I heard comparisons to, (laughs) to one I've actually played before.

Uh, it's called Ace Combat.

But, so it was done with, uh, with drones, uh, unmanned drones, uh, several hundred of them, I believe.

Um, reflect on what happened in Boulder, Colorado and dive deeper into what you're thinking there, Blake.