Their entire career has been self-tape.

And it's so sad, just hearing us all say it again.

We just did all these things with Juilliard and NYU and New York and...

You know, it's so sad that you don't know them as people.

I mean, unless I went to Juilliard and did three classes with them, I wouldn't know them from just seeing them in the showcase.

Whereas like all that small talk in the lobby and how are you and what are you doing in the walk from the waiting room to the audition room, we got to know who people were so we could talk about them.

And that's what I miss the most, you know, and what I love the most about live auditions, because it's a given that they could act.

Yeah.