Yeah

...

he decided to start doing MMA and was very successful at it.

But, uh, he said, "This mission is tougher than any street fight I've ever been in, and I just need to go home." So I said, "Well, I'll tell you what." Thought came into my mind, "Are you keeping all the rules in the white hand..." Well, first of all, I said, "We can do that.

I can take you right to the airport after this interview.

Or let me ask you a question, though.

Are you keeping all the rules in the white handbook?" He says, "Well, not totally." I said, "Well, tell you what, you got this little girlfriend that you don't wanna disappoint." "Ah, no, but it's, it's okay.

Last question I have, I'll start with you, James, and we'll come to Bart, is as you reflect on your time as a leader, how has being a leader helped you become a better follower of Jesus Christ?