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Oct 19, 2026
NA012 - The Oblong Table
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48:41Bart DorlandtGUEST
Yeah, but they don't, they might even not do it at work, right? Or there are plenty of, of companies that, that do not allow, uh, AI at the moment, right? Um- Like bigger companies like ASML, right? They are not pro-AI at all, right? Um, of course, they are afraid of, of leaking a lot of their sensitive information, sure.
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49:04Bart DorlandtGUEST
But that on top of, of companies that don't do it or don't do it yet, and engineers that might be, quote unquote, "afraid" or just don't know where to start with this massive amount of, of massive wall of, of information and possibilities, it's... [laughs] Or you might be near your pension and you're like, "Yeah, no F way that I'm gonna dive into this hell hole." There's, there's flows for everything, right? And we...
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49:33Bart DorlandtGUEST
You're all smart cookies, right? And, and you tend to have a, a view of, of, of where you're at, right? I mean, we got people running the Ice Landing network.
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49:44Bart DorlandtGUEST
We got, eh, John, head of, head of networking, doing, uh, doing things where, where a lot of people are very jealous of in, in what he has achieved and doing, being able to do changes on Monday morning instead of the, the Sunday night or the, the Saturday night or whatever, right? So there's, there's also a sort of view to that.
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50:07Bart DorlandtGUEST
And a lot of people, again, are, are jealous of, of what certain companies, certain people are doing/have achieved, and there's just, just a whole gap in, in between, or a whole array of, of possibilities in between.
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55:37Bart DorlandtGUEST
No, but it is, it is ideal, right? Or perhaps even, even a goal to get to that place, right? We, we are going to AC6, right? Or going as it is coming up.
HN845: Real Life Use Cases for BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)
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23:50Bart DorlandtGUEST
Right? So when you restart the collector, it would say, well, it would stop the session, obviously, because it's gone.
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23:57Bart DorlandtGUEST
It would come up again, say, "Hey, I'm here." Um, you set up, had that ne- negotiation between the two, um, restarts, and it would dump whatever it knows up to that point.
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24:09Bart DorlandtGUEST
So yes, there is a overhead of additional traffic going to the collector, going upstream.
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24:24Bart DorlandtGUEST
Um, but you would ensure that if you, if you do that daily, right? Um, every day you would just restart it, and it would always...
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24:36Bart DorlandtGUEST
Because on, on our experience, it was the issue never was on within a day, right? That would take, uh, a bunch of time to reveal itself.
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HN845: Real Life Use Cases for BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)
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23:50Bart DorlandtGUEST
Right? So when you restart the collector, it would say, well, it would stop the session, obviously, because it's gone.
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23:57Bart DorlandtGUEST
It would come up again, say, "Hey, I'm here." Um, you set up, had that ne- negotiation between the two, um, restarts, and it would dump whatever it knows up to that point.
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24:09Bart DorlandtGUEST
So yes, there is a overhead of additional traffic going to the collector, going upstream.
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24:24Bart DorlandtGUEST
Um, but you would ensure that if you, if you do that daily, right? Um, every day you would just restart it, and it would always...
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24:36Bart DorlandtGUEST
Because on, on our experience, it was the issue never was on within a day, right? That would take, uh, a bunch of time to reveal itself.
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