to

see, and this is where we recorded four of the songs.

Now it's a little more full now of junk, but we started meeting the guys, the guys in the badass brass and everybody just get here to kind of work on song ideas.

And we had, because Jonathan wasn't here, we had all this time to kind of really get, get in depth with the music like we'd never done before.

So songs really would move around a lot and change a lot with each practice.

And we tried to record a couple times.

It never really worked.

It got real dark.