(air whooshing)

Is it comes back to economics.

And again, if I could spoil it down to one word, it's like, radicalism is when no house.

(laughs) That's it.

If you can't get a house, if you don't see a path to get a house, and I hear this all the time.

They're, they're, some of them are working.

They're working decent jobs, they're working hard.

And so when people wake up and they're being disappeared by ICE, when their healthcare is being ripped away, when they're psychologically tortured, living paycheck to paycheck, and people aren't acting with an urgency-