This is horrific." Like, you don't need to make Keith look worse than he is.

My whole feeling with this thing is, like I said, I was reluctant to enter this arena, um, from the get-go.

The only reason I did is because I recognized someone might try and tell my story instead of me and be the curator of me, uh, and not tell it appropriately and tell it with their version.

I also know no matter what I do, people are gonna misinterpret it, whether they do it intentionally or not.

Um, and I was kind of interested in the lessons this was gonna give me in terms of how I was gonna reconcile my own way I got involved with it, and then it revealed to me the character of a lot of other people.

[clears throat] You know, my friends and family, the people that know me and love me, know my character, and that wasn't ever really in jeopardy.

Um, I-- It...

Mm-hmm

Mm.

And the article was written by a lawyer that was in Tiger's circle, and the lawyer was friends with Tiger Woods' dad.

And he said after Tiger Woods' dad died, people who said no to Tiger Woods slowly le- slowly started getting fired or leaving his camp.

And this lawyer was still in Tiger's camp because Tiger felt a loyal to i- to, to him because of his dad.

They had a relationship.

And he knew it was only a matter of time before he was gonna get fired because he was the only one that went in Tiger Woods' camp and said, "Hey." Was in his ear about his behavior, and finally it got to the point where it was a mutual like, "Hey, he's gotta go." And then once Tiger Woods was kind of divorced from reality, there was nobody, um, putting the kid in a candy store who nobody was gonna say no to him, and ultimately it collapsed.

'Cause there was no one in his camp telling him no, saying, "This isn't good for you," et cetera, et cetera.

Okay.

The hook

...

the answers are kind of very similar, and I think one of the things that our, our book does really well is, is handle two different case-by-case scenarios 'cause they are always case by case, and the hook is always gonna be different for most people.

And, um, for me sp- pr- specifically, it was an old girlfriend that I still had feelings for that told me about it.

So I was somewhat resistant to what she was saying.

I even said, "I'm not doing your cult," at one point.

And then she basically was pretty persistent with me, and she had known me, uh, and I mention this in the book.

How did he get away with it?

Nipsey loves answering this question, so.

So here's my delineation, and-Y-you can take it for what it's worth.

Um, I think there's a lot of people there, um, I'd say 98% of them, 99% of them, who are there because we thought we were doing something good.

And the closer to Keith Raniere you got, the more abuse you experienced.

And in cases of...

The worst case scenario is he was sexually abusing them, and they didn't think they were doing it, being sexually abused.

They thought they were going on a spiritual path with someone sexually.

Yeah