But it also snowed four inches in April.

Here we were out in the middle of the country in this abandoned motel, and some people were in rooms, some shared with people they knew, some shared with people they didn't know, and some in tents, and then gathering together in this one kind of dining hall to have meals together, and everybody helped cook and clean and all that.

So it was, I suppose you could say, like summer camp for adults.

And so, and that's the sort of experience you don't have very often as an adult.

So I think it did create a sense of closeness and just warmth around the whole phenomenon that very much permeates the whole straw bale community.

I think what makes it special is the barn raising aspect of it.

I think it appeals to people who have a strong connection to nature, and those people tend to find each other and have a commonality from the very beginning, right? It's like, "Oh, you're here because you care.

You, you have a reverence for nature and for the earth." And so that's a very strong tie to have, and it's sort of implicit from the beginning.