Before we move into the how, like how did we get here, and why is an anti-fascist architecture so sidelined and not understood, explain this concept of, you talked about shelter forms, which I wanted to ask about, if there's anything else you wanted to say about that, that would be cool, but also social expanders, and so when we're thinking about the possibilities, you touched on things we can look to in the past as being good examples, but looking towards the future, explain this concept of social expanders and how it relates to shelter forms.

I feel particularly lucky because Dan and Lane and my other very good comrade, Quinn, reviewed my Arch 382 studio today, which is termed the Social Expander Collective, and it's about this sort of concept.

It's a slight update to an earlier Russian constructivist, early 20th century, after the Russian Revolution, Um, it's an update to Moisey Ginsburg, uh, idea around the social condenser.

Um, we talk a lot about that in kind of in the weeds of theory in the book, which recommend diving into, but the simple way of understanding the social condenser, um, is, you know, effectively like what would it look like if all of your needs were met in a building, kind of like the way in which your needs are met in a bigger city.

Um, The social condenser goes through a couple of iterations.

Perhaps the most notable ones are the forms of social housing that particularly get built in the Soviet Union and in other parts of Europe and Eastern Europe.

Here in the States, they're less condensers and a lot more kind of strict in terms of just as housing, which in many ways, you know, that's certainly one criticism you can have of certain of the mid 20th century housing projects, right? But the social condenser sort of loses its effective reach without the political infrastructure that it found itself in, which was effectively, we need an architecture that serves all of us and that serves a new core of workers building a society.

And yeah, I think like, what if we just dusted off good old anti-fascism and made a huge tent? What would happen then?