them.

I'm not that cool, I wish, but they were keen.

So kind of arranged it all.

They recommended a couple of people that I, if I could find these people that I speak to them.

And one of them, her name was Allegra.

And I never, never heard of her, never met her before.

And I sat down, I remember us sitting down and having a big, there's probably maybe eight of us having coffee.

Tell us about that, how people can support that, how people can find out more about that.

morning.

And Lord, you know what people are dealing with.

They're listening to this podcast today, and many of them are leaders that are struggling in their personal life or maybe in their private life.

And we know that Satan comes in like a flood to try to kill, steal, and destroy.

But you have promised, Lord, when the enemy comes in like a flood, the spirit of the Lord shall raise up a standard against him.

And that person may feel today that if anybody knew me, You know, they may feel like an imposter today.

If anybody really knew me, then they would not want me.

Would you tell us

He detailed a lot of the inner workings of The Order, including money links between his company, WRE, and Order-linked businesses.

I questioned if he cared about protecting the family.

Andrew Robinson, Jacob's half-brother, was still in The Order during the trial.

He didn't seem to care who he was gonna throw under the bus, 'cause it seemed like he was just complying with whatever they want, which is what you're supposed to do.

You're under oath.

Andrew Robinson is one of Jacob's half-brothers.

A lot of the money he brought in, I didn't really see it benefiting a lot of people, and I was thinking, "Well, I'm just hoping eventually some of this can benefit families like mine and my mom's."

In these family meetings, Andrew gets to see the effect the money has had on his brother.

Jacob would show us all these tax return checks from the IRS, and it was like 23 million, 22 million.

He just had a binder full of these checks.

He was just showing them off to us saying, "This is only possible here in this group." He kind of just had the attitude of, "I have divine protection."

Andrew says this kind of thing is commonplace, that, for example, mothers in the group cheat the government with exaggerated child tax credits too.

I'm not exactly sure if you can label it fraud, but she'll kind of spread her kids out to maybe three or four different people to claim her children, and then she would just have all of the direct deposits go straight into her bank account.

A lot of people didn't know it was happening to them.

My sister, she had me claim a couple kids and got me in an audit, [laughs] so I had no idea what was going on.

Sure enough, Andrew and six to seven of his brothers are given the job of actually building the plant.

For six to eight months, I was working before the sun came up and after the sun set.

I was, like, 16, 17, and we wasn't eating enough.

I was using the bathroom once for the whole day.