And I think a lot of people were questioning whether or not he was that kind of a quarterback.

Yes, okay.

So from that perspective, completely agree.

People owe him an apology.

But it's, like, such a wave, though, because it's like you got... people will put you in the category that you earn, right? And so I say that to say Caleb Williams was the savior since he's been in high school.

You know, even when he goes to college and he takes off the way that he does, like, they were talking about him being the number one pick before he was draft eligible and he was going to be the next Patrick Mahomes.

And so there was such a high bar for the talent that he has.

Mm-hmm.

me and

you're not.

You're not me.

I'm me.

How do NBA players know who's tough? This is an honest question.

I have no idea.

In football, we know who's tough because it's a physical game.

Yeah,

Is that what happened to you?

What a dismount there.

Not quite.

But, I mean, here's what's going to sound really crazy.

It was such a hard-fought negative 14 yards.

Like, it was – you talk about NFL effort.

So, the situation, it's the fourth quarter.

Yes or no?

Because I don't think anybody looks at him and says, "That's the fastest receiver in the league."

No, he's not the fastest.

He's not the quickest.

He's not the biggest.

He's not...

He just plays, he plays the position better than anybody in the league, and there is, like, a relatability thing to JSN that prevents people from saying, like, "Oh, I know I can't do what Jamar Chase does.

He's the best.

In basketball and football, that's all you're getting.

And Jeffrey Simmons is somebody who can allow you to have a pass rush with four that they did not have before getting Jeffrey Simmons.

immediately came into the lineup, immediately dominated and made an impact on a defense that has struggled.

So yes, he believes that they can win a Super Bowl now.

You give up two first round picks, that is a vote of confidence for Ben Johnson as your coach to say, yo, we have the coaching that puts us in a position to win a Super Bowl.

That is a vote of confidence for Caleb Williams to say this kid has matured And he is playing as good as we've ever imagined he would be when we drafted him first overall.

And we built the entire farm on him well before the NFL draft.

And it also goes to show that for the rest of the team, you talked about it, the offensive line, the receivers, The running backs, there's a level of detail when you watch them play that feels like domination, no matter who they go against when Caleb Williams is in the lineup.

He's choosing somewhere that he knows he's going to have success because he's going to have more success with that quarterback, that offense, and that offensive line, which looks a lot like Detroit's offensive line.

You had a flat tire today, so I assume that it would be similar, but it doesn't seem to be.

You know what? And there was a pothole that I think might have been caused by the water yesterday.

I don't know.

I feel like that was to be the case.

Hit it.

Boom.

I'm like, all right, I'll be fine.

Did the entire media steal from you, Lamar Jackson, to Miami?

And I will say

the one thing you can never do is – it's not a science.

There's no one factor or one criterion that will allow you to go, okay, yes, they're going to be well-suited here.

No, they're not.

And to be fair, some horses that should have performed haven't.

Some horses that really shouldn't have performed did.

It's something that you cannot – Uh, you cannot say with confidence, but with as much certainty as you can, uh, you know, I've, I've given my opinions on, on horses.

Barriers, relevant or

And I will say the one

thing you can never do is – it's not a science.

There's no one factor or one criterion that will allow you to go, okay, yes, they're going to be well-suited here.

No, they're not.

And to be fair, some horses that should have performed haven't.

Some horses that really shouldn't have performed did.

It's something that you cannot – Uh, you cannot say with confidence, but with as much certainty as you can, uh, you know, I've, I've given my opinions on, on horses.

Barriers, relevant or irrelevant?

And I will say the

one thing you can never do is – it's not a science.

There's no one factor or one criterion that will allow you to go, okay, yes, they're going to be well-suited here.

No, they're not.

And to be fair, some horses that should have performed haven't.

Some horses that really shouldn't have performed did.

It's something that you cannot – You cannot say with confidence, but with as much certainty as you can, you know, I've given my opinions on horses.

But how do you view a move like that?

What do you think happens in in Pittsburgh, PA, out there in Akershire against the Brownies and the Pittsburgh Steelers?

I genuinely think the Browns are going to win.

Oh, I do.

And I know they're not favorites.

I know that's a that's an unpopular take, but.

I think the first game they played, their defense played great.

I think the Steelers are, you know, Aaron Rodgers is playing great.

Right.

What do you think happens in in Pittsburgh, PA, out there in Akershire against the Brownies and the Pittsburgh Steelers?

I genuinely think the Browns are going to win.

Oh, I do.

And I know they're not favorites.

I know that's a that's an unpopular take.

Yeah.

I think the first game they played, their defense played great.

Right.

And for a lot of them dog mentality type people, you actually thrive in situations like that.

The NBA and the WNBA are supposed to have a close relationship.

I think the Atlanta Hawks should have volunteered to postpone their home game.

That's the solution.

But remember, Tony, that Jay-Z was one of the people who – put bad bunny there last year so as happy as we are with that one we still got to support our brother when it's his turn

and people criticize bad bunny one of the great halftime shows in super bowl history in this case jay-z's a legacy act and i think your analogy is very good that he's to hip-hop what bruce springsteen is to rock music he's a legacy act and and to juju's point The fun now is speculating who he's going to bring on stage with him, because it's going to be an absolute spectacle.

Who do you think? It'll be a spectacle.

Well, the two names mentioned are...

indeed the betting favorite? Are the Bills the betting favorite? Are the Chiefs the betting favorite? Who has become the betting favorite now that the Rams have lost a few games? Because what's the answer to my question, Hawkins, when I ask you, who do you trust?

Who do I trust? I trust the San Francisco 49ers.

I trust the Kansas City Chiefs, even though they're coming off their first loss of the season.

Bad loss.

I trust the Seattle Seahawks on the other side of that.

I trust the Jacksonville Jaguars are really good on both sides of the ball.

You trust them.

I don't, I actually don't know how to do the math on if we're watching this weekend, if Is Puka more likely to get injured than Parker Washington because that's what the past has been? Or are there just landmines all over the field and I don't know when someone's going to step on them?

Is that a good thing

when your ass falls off? It's a great thing.

It's the best thing you could possibly put on a football field.

If you play your ass off.

Come on, man.

Come on, coach.

What are we talking about? Actually, I know that's the gibberish segment.

favorite was J.J. McCarthy saying, don't ask why, ask what's next.

Can you tell me how uncommon that is to have numbers that are that different from everyone else in the league in terms of the football you're playing?

Yeah, I think the reason is because Flores is that much better of a coach.

I would have likened it to the Shanahan slash McVay when those offenses kind of... took off but it's because football is played with a set of rules that is not just like you know hey this is the rules of the game like there's a certain way to beat cover two there's a certain balance you need offensively to be successful there's a certain way you attack zones a certain way that when somebody blitz you have to typically play a certain coverage in the back end and there's this gamesmanship between coaches and offensive and defensive strategies that Sean McVay Shanahan stopped following They completely changed it.

And then over time, more people adopted that offense, which forced defenses to start to change.

And still, they haven't even caught up yet.

Defensively, that's what Brian Flores is doing.

He breaks rules that typically have been in place for 40 and 50 years in defensive football of what coverages you're playing behind blitzes, simulated pressure, who's coming out, who's dropping into coverage that as an offense, it's like playing someone shitty in basketball.

But I thought that the middle of what you were saying, you realize that you need to be careful because you don't want to take away acumen from Kyler Murray from the style of play that he's playing.

That I won't

have it.

And so the fact that I'm saying for my money means the bread basket that I keep in my house that is full of unmarked bills just in case a rainy day happens.

I'm putting that up on Malachi Tony for this fact.

The fact that you feel like or anybody feels like.

He has to come home with a national championship to be the greatest Canes receiver or greatest Canes ever.

As a slot receiver tells you his greatness, that you think someone at that position affects a team that much, that it rides on his ability to be great in order for him to bring a championship home.

It doesn't make him a better player.

But which is more surprising, the 49ers at 6-0 or the Chargers at 0-6?

I'm going to go Chargers at 0-6.

Because Justin Herbert's talent lends to that being virtually impossible.

Because when you're supposed to be that upper echelon of talented quarterbacks with the movement, the arm strength, the vision.

We've seen him with record-breaking performances previously.

This isn't supposed to be an option.

Not with Jim Harbaugh as the head coach.

What does that have to do with Mike McDaniel's offense?

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Who wasn't in the pile then? Not the pile you were in.

if I'm interested and I like baseball, why do I care if they're going to get teams that everyone's going to watch? I got it.

Because bad ratings as a fan who likes baseball equals less baseball.

How? Because if there's not an interest for it, you can't justify putting more of the thing that you like.

So if you're not a Rays or a Brewers fan, I would actually tell you, make sure you're still watching.

Because if you don't care if there's big games or not, if you're a person who's going to watch no matter what, still, they'll put less baseball on, which is not what you want.

So that's why you should care.

All right.

want them to have a little respect for the other team

What's Troy thinking about when he's just staring at Joe Buck there?

That's not like just a mid-turn screenshot? I don't know.

I'm curious.

That feels like one of those frames where you grab it right where you can try to maybe gray it.

Does he look mad? Does he not? Not out of the question.

I don't know much about what's going on between the two of them.

Let me put that on record.

If we're dealing with blood clots, go sit on the plane for six hours?

To me, Malachi Toney is the Heisman leader right now.

Man, I wouldn't argue that.

I think he is.

I won't say he's as good because he is as good.

I mean, Jeremiah Smith is a freak, obviously.

Like, it's built in a lab-style receiver.

But I almost give more credit to Malachi Toney in his game because he doesn't have that size advantage that Jeremiah Smith has.

it.

Is this the type of move, Andrew Hawkins, that can put the Cowboys where they need to be to win the division?

I don't know.

I don't think this by itself puts them in position.

I still like the Eagles.

And even when you look at the schedule between the Cowboys and the Eagles, The Eagles have a way more favorable schedule and the Cowboys.

I can't really point to a lot of wins where it's like, oh, check box.

They're definitely going to get that W.

Hawk, before we get your pick, you put together some tape for us on some of the positive changes you saw from the Steeler offense this past weekend against Cincinnati.

Johnny Football with a night to remember.

You have Johnny Manziel, this juggernaut of a college football player, where it made the Cleveland Browns the center of the universe.

Johnny was an incredible person.

He was a nice guy.

I thought he was a great teammate.

But when Johnny got there, he wasn't ready to be a professional quarterback.

But while the Browns may have missed the playoffs, they did at least get a good anecdote.

Even the fact that we have that video and we get to tell the story about what that week was like and being a part of that play is more than enough for the guys that were there.

All of that said, do you agree with the decision?

I don't.

I, I, look, I, I get, like, Deshaun Watson has played a lot of football in the league and, and in some ways you can kind of see the floor.

We've seen it.

We've seen, like, the bad version of Deshaun Watson.

We've seen the great version of Deshaun Watson.

And I know Shedeur Sanders might be a little feast or famine, but in Deshaun Watson's tenure as a Browns quarterback, it has been famine or famine.

Where do you come out?

All of that said, do you agree with the decision?

decision?I don't.

I, I... look, I, I get, like, Deshaun Watson has played a lot of football in the league and, and in some ways you can kind of see the floor.

We've seen it.

We've seen, like, the bad version of Deshaun Watson.

We've seen the great version of Deshaun Watson.

And I know Shedeur Sanders might be a little feast or famine, but in Deshaun Watson's tenure as a Browns quarterback, it has been famine or famine.

Where do you come out?