And so what did you do to try to alleviate those thoughts?

I'd always, uh, seek reassurance from, uh, my mum.

We'd have to follow a script, basically.

She'd have to say, "I understand.

You're okay.

You're not a bad person.

These, it's just a thought." And that's the only way that the anxiety could go down.

And what's the main form of therapy that you've had?

Uh, Alberto.

So my first guess was, like, I didn't think that K-pop demon hunters was a, was a TV show, but if they're naming a, if they're kinda like playing with the words like that with the city, I'm guessing this is Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?

Oh.

And, uh, worked in community theater locally, and she's like, "Do you guys know Char- Charles in Charge?" And everybody around me is, like, maybe nine, 10, they were like, "What the hell's that?" And I loved reruns.

I'm like, "Yeah." And it's like, "That's me." And then she would sing a couple lines.

Like, holy [beep] that's actually her, so yeah.

Ms. Cinnamon, wherever you are, hopefully not under a bridge, but, uh, yeah, still think about you.

What's going on?

So obviously, so bit of background, uh, my job, I'm a real estate agent.

Um, so I spoke to my boss about the job or what, whatever fucking I signed up for.

Um-And he just asked me what am I actually going to be doing, um, because if it's gonna look bad against my name, um, then obviously that's gonna be a problem.

We'll h- we'll have a fantastic afternoon.

Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Sounds good.

Wrong

... wrong.

I would actually say I don't have a great bias, at least, because I don't have a, I don't have a connection to any of the countries.

And what I think so many people our age is doing is they have a bias because they want to be, be pro-Palestine alone, because that's what everybody else is, and that's kind of the right stance to have.

Uh, and they, they have, uh, almost no information and have never researched anything because that is just the right stance to take right now, and I wouldn't say that I'm a part of that either.

So I don't know.

Of course, like, it, it would also be, be weird if I didn't have a bias, but I can't really explain where it should come from if I have it.

And so I've had multiple incidents where the conversation just broke down from the get-go.