And

she said, Dad, take a picture of me crying and send it to me.

And we brought it to market seven years ago.

I love this man so much.

He's truly my best friend.

I'm actually getting emotional.

I say this all the time, but...

He's the hardest worker in the room.

... and where are you guys headed?

Yeah, so just a quick rundown on the business.

Uh, we started three and a half years ago.

Patty and myself just started this as a, hey, a little consultancy specifically to help with, like, affiliate marketing.

How can a brand work with, honestly, anything or anybody with, with an audience, right? That can be a publisher, like a Vogue, a Sports Illustrated, a Men's Health, to you guys.

Renji has an audience of a very high affinity, high net worth type, uh, you know, uh, listenership.

Like, how can we work with the Men's Health of the world, the Renjis of the world, uh, incentivize them to talk about the brands or the products that we'd, uh, be representing, all with the hopes of, hey, this can be generating revenue for that brand in a very intentional, credible manner.

We gotta talk about that.

with uh ronan curtis and it's it's the same opposition it's them again tell us about this this

was one of the most incredible finishes to a game i've ever seen in my life and you know i lived through fergie time this is blood sweat tears crazy gang call it what you want i don't care this was emotion this was tinged with every emotion you could ever ever ever experience in football and it was the most grittiest horrible game and and this is you know women have been relegated out of um League One, and the recovery has taken some time, like the actual healing process of it.

We finished third from bottom in the Football League in Johnny Jackson's first season.

I thought, I think, you know, he brought in some experienced players, brought in Alex Pearce, brought in Chris Gunter.

Josh Davidson was the main striker.

We were lucky.

We were lucky, let me tell you that, because we were guff for a while.

um okay so we get to the last goal and this is a playoff second leg goal so stakes are high and it's josh nerf bill is

The strike was worth it

...

when we shot the pilot and Vince sold the idea of the arc of the show, uh, the, the, the arc of the first season was, uh, Jesse Pinkman introduces Walt, uh, to the drug world.

And by towards the end of the, not in the finale, it's like the, uh, the episode before the finale, uh, Pinkman dies and then Walt, uh, is then led to go out for revenge-

Benny, what's something that therapy has taught you about yourself?

You know, I really think therapy gave me, like, a little, like, mental toolbox of how I can understand myself as I'm having a panic attack, as I'm going through those moments where I really don't know, I feel like my life is ending, and there's no other way I can get around it.

And then I have this little toolbox that's like, "Calm down.

Take a step back.

Mm.

I watched a lot of Fulham in that era, because we had family links, and, and we'd, we'd end up going to Fulham and, and just watching them.

And it was a real joy.

But Brian McBride was some player.

And I remember him rounding the goalkeeper, and Van der Sar and Vidic looking at each other.

And it was one of those days you think, "Is this gonna be it?" But then Ryan Giggs scores one of the most sumptuous volleys I've ever seen.

The ball popped in, and he's just swiped it.

[laughs]

[laughs]

But it's a, it's a, it's a real wig, but it's, it's padded on the head, and so she would just fall, and her head would hit the ground.

Yeah.

And, uh, it's, uh, and it, you know, you matched it every time, Robert.

I don't know how you did it

No

...

I don't really mind it.

I mean, there's some, some scenes sometimes it's just, it's so hard to do for me sometimes.

But normally it's pretty, pretty easy.

But then-

Yeah.

But then we t- we t- we were like, "All right.

This is a big scene for you

...

it was so, it was so hot.

[laughs] Well...

Wait, wait.

You know what? Listen to the writers back each other's play.

Listen to...

Yeah

This was the infamous-

Well, you know, I, I, I hadn't seen a payphone in so long, and it, I thought it was actually set dec, and I was like, "That's a random place to put a payphone." And I went to check it out, and it worked, and so I just tweeted out the number and said, "Call me." I was lonely.

I just wanted to talk to people.

[laughs]

And having, uh, Kaja Bales who plays, um, Jonathan Banks's granddaughter, Mike's granddaughter, having her in that tree took a lot of thought.

It's not my fault that, uh, Martha's got his, uh, panties in a twist.

That's an HR issue, Janet.

I, I, I read the report.

Tireless, yeah.

You're okay with that? Yes.

He handles the business, and I handle him.

Clearly we're talking about renting, not buying.

You need an ongoing business, someplace you can slide in, do-

I love this shot.

What I love about this storyline is the assumption that, uh, tenting houses happens in throughout the entire country and perhaps most of the world.

And so as you guys are developing the story about, uh, cooking meth inside the houses that are already being tented-

[laughs]

I always am...

I, every time I, uh, I work with, uh, Bob, uh, the, the famous Saul Goodman, uh, I am so mesmerized by his ties.

Oh, thanks, man.

I'm sitting in the, the hair and makeup trailer, and I see to my right, I'm like, and I had just read the episode.

I'm like, "Wait, who, who drew that?" And, uh, they said, "Vince." And I grabbed it, and I noticed it was a photocopy, so I instantly called-

What do you feel like you've gotten back from it?

Oh, man.

I mean, I gotta tell you, not having my smartphone around and just really going light, honestly, I feel healthier.

Mentally, I feel happier.

I don't know, maybe it's ignorance is bliss, but I think there's just way too much information we're just drowning in constantly.

I don't think we're meant to, to have that.

Uh, and it's just like, why are we keeping, keep doing that?

Well, I, and I have friends that any time the new iPhone comes out, they get it that week.

What do you feel like you've gotten back from it?

Oh, man.

I mean, I gotta tell you, not having my smartphone around and just really going light, honestly, I feel healthier.

Mentally, I feel happier.

I don't know, maybe it's ignorance is bliss, but I think there's just way too much information we're just drowning in constantly.

I don't think we're meant to, to have that.

Uh, it's just like why are we keeping, keep doing that?

What, I, and I have friends that anytime the new iPhone comes out, they get it that week.

Yeah.

Like, three floors down.

You couldn't see anything, and then I just hear something behind me in an old, like, Russian accent, this old woman saying, "Excuse me, do you know where the bathroom is?" And I turn around, and it's just this woman smoking a cigarette in like a yellow robe, like three floors...

Anyways.

[laughs]

And did you guys, did you guys...

Bill, did you guys augment some of the smoke and stuff in front as well? 'Cause I know with visual effects it's always difficult when you have smoke in there.

Don't you?

Let Mr.

White go.

Pay him off or fire him.

Don't kill him.

Yeah.

While we were shooting, while we were rolling, and, uh, she had to, um, be, uh, taken out.

[laughs]

this was a challenge, because you couldn't give anything away here.

Right.

Absolutely.

Right, right on.

And it, it, it, it fills me with to- with, it, it just gives me that confidence again.

I'm like, "I won.

I won this round.

...

And the disappointment when you learn there's no hot dog.

I love it.

Salmon hue.

[laughs] I f- you know, I find those moments when he can escape from his harrowing life and get into science, that he just, he just loves it and gets tickled, and then he's rocked back into the real world.

I love this scene.

There's a lot of lighting going on here.

Yeah.

That's more than most.

Yeah.

I gotta give a, a shout-out to, uh, my, uh, my good friend Steve Aoki.

I wore this because, um, he came down to Albuquerque.

He had a show, and he actually came down to visit me.

We, we actually threw him in, uh, in one of the scenes as an extra.

Uh, uh, when wa- what...

I forget what episode.

Okay.

I think he went to Julliard, actually, or something.

I just saw him in something.

I forgot, it was some TV thing.

And, and he just played like the nicest guy.

It was so odd.

[laughs]

And Vince, even though the show, the show feels very fluid in that it moves along, every single shot that we do on every episode is meticulously planned.

He's a good kid.

He is.

He's such a little playboy around town.

Guarded Mike? What is this, some kind of a joke?

And you know what? Two dudes try to rob us, and I save the stash.

I took care of business, just like I'm taking care of business right now.

You wanna stand there dicking around-

... oof.

Yeah.

Hey, Aaron, can you talk a little bit about, like, what you do to get yourself in...

Because your character in this episode is, is basically you have PTSD from shooting Gale, like, last season, right?

Yeah.

I think he's great.

And he's, he was so, so, so excited to be asked back, and, um, he was saying that, um, all of his s- students were such huge fan, fans of, uh, the show, and they were just so proud of their professor coming back-

Which was awesome, by the way.

And, uh, I...

Oh, thank you, man.

Thank you.

And then- and then I've really...

Honestly, I've- I've been looking for a game, but I just, you know...

Some stuff has come my way in the past, but it was just never really...

That's pretty sick.

Uh, prior planning prevents poor performance is the old saying I remember from Boy Scouts or-

But in a lot of ways, I also notice and lo- appreciate all the, the choices, the angles.

You know, look at this angle.

Yes, absolutely true.

Like, he, his whole thing is everything is arm's length from him.

He's just on...

You, you can't connect the dots to him.

Nobody can.

Super, uh, detail-oriented.

And, you know, normally with, with directors, uh, in episodic, uh, television, you, they, they will come out an episode early, uh, to prep their episode and then shoot, but he came out two episodes early so he could shadow a director-

Me too

... a dream of an actor is to just, uh, truly get lost in a scene, and you really feel like you're living in that, that moment.

Um, and I definitely did get lost, right, I mean, this entire-

[laughs]

... a girl gently placed a bottle of champagne in between her, uh, her breasts, and then kind of stood up and poured it into my mouth.

Uh-

... practical, what you call a practical, uh, set or a location, yeah.

I remember shooting outside of this building, and, uh, and Lynn, one of our wonderful on-set PAs, was locking down the street, and this guy was trying to walk through, but he was gonna walk into the shot, and she, she tried to stop him, and he just lifted up his shirt and showed a gun and said, "I'm going in," and just, like, walked past us.