Jun 11, 2026 · 13 min · 8 segments
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Chude JideonwoHost
Daniel OchukoGuest
Jason AbagaGuest
Joke SilvaGuest
I want to ask you, Jason, also, because you've been in, your work is by definition, I mean, it's all collaborative, but, you know, collaborative work.

People will say, I remember when we were doing the gender people course, one of the content that's used to teach people is the content of a man, a Nigerian man, who sees a woman, you know, with, who is boxed on.

Now, most content creators, and I want to ask you this actually, think, would say, that's what people want to watch.

So if I want to blow, if I want the content to go viral, I have to go to the lowest common denominator.

What do you say? And are they right? Because they look at the movies, a lot of sexism in the movies, a lot of chauvinism.

It's just like, sometimes I'm watching the movie, I'm like, these ones are living a different, they're not living, these ones are not aware that Me Too happened, they're not aware that the feminism has happened.

Do you think that they're right, that for you to create popular content, you have to cater to stereotypes? And if not, what is the proof that you don't have to?

The first is that if you're making backdated content, if your films have outdated stereotypes, you're going to fade away over time.

Maybe your children, when they come across your life's work, they can't show anybody.

And you will see that if you go look at the top earning films, it's not about sex appeal at all.

It's about great storytelling, great characters that have seized the world's attention and everybody's paying attention.

I want to ask you, Jason, also, because you've been in, your work is by definition, I mean, it's all collaborative, but, you know, collaborative work.

People will say, I remember when we were doing the gender people course, one of the content that's used to teach people is the content of a man, a Nigerian man, who sees a woman, you know, with, who is boxed on.

Now, most content creators, and I want to ask you this actually, think, would say, that's what people want to watch.

So if I want to blow, if I want the content to go viral, I have to go to the lowest common denominator.

What do you say? And are they right? Because they look at the movies, a lot of sexism in the movies, a lot of chauvinism.

It's just like, sometimes I'm watching the movie, I'm like, these ones are living a different, they're not living, these ones are not aware that Me Too happened, they're not aware that the feminism has happened.

Do you think that they're right, that for you to create popular content, you have to cater to stereotypes? And if not, what is the proof that you don't have to?

The first is that if you're making backdated content, if your films have outdated stereotypes, you're going to fade away over time.

Maybe your children, when they come across your life's work, they can't show anybody.

And you will see that if you go look at the top earning films, it's not about sex appeal at all.

It's about great storytelling, great characters that have seized the world's attention and everybody's paying attention.
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