Sep 1, 2026 · 42 min · 8 segments
When life feels like it is against you and full of disappointment, shame, and suffering, we meet God in the present moment. Hear Isaac’s advice on shifting your mindset from suffering-focused toward…
Isaac WickerGuestWhole Human HostHostYeah, your driving analogy really hits home for me.
I had a moment in prayer this week.
I find myself saying a lot to my husband in the evening after the kids are in bed and I have like maybe an hour of silence total in my day.
I just like jump into gear and I have a list of 25 things to do.
And I know that I can only get four of them done.
And that's the time when my husband's home.
And I noticed myself responding to him often with the words, I got stuff to do.
Stop it.
I got stuff to do.
And I had a moment in prayer this week, um, Where the Lord said, instead of saying, I've got stuff to do, I want your response to be, I've got people to love.
And to reorient.
I just have a type A brain that is so ready to think of all the things that have to get done.
Yeah.
Yeah, all the stuff that I want to accomplish.
And he just reoriented that and was like, okay, this is secondary.
You want to do all these things because you want to love your family well.
If you don't love your family well, you missed it.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's what that made me think of, actually.

That there's... that each moment of our life actually can be relational, is meant to be relational, is designed, is brought into creation relationally.

Like we think of creation as a stable state I can't totally say for sure, but my sense is more recently is that creation is happening.

They're being desired and brought along and called into being moment to moment.
Yeah, your driving analogy really hits home for me.
I had a moment in prayer this week.
I find myself saying a lot to my husband in the evening after the kids are in bed and I have like maybe an hour of silence total in my day.
I just like jump into gear and I have a list of 25 things to do.
And I know that I can only get four of them done.
And that's the time when my husband's home.
And I noticed myself responding to him often with the words, I got stuff to do.
Stop it.
I got stuff to do.
And I had a moment in prayer this week, um, Where the Lord said, instead of saying, I've got stuff to do, I want your response to be, I've got people to love.
And to reorient.
I just have a type A brain that is so ready to think of all the things that have to get done.
Yeah.
Yeah, all the stuff that I want to accomplish.
And he just reoriented that and was like, okay, this is secondary.
You want to do all these things because you want to love your family well.
If you don't love your family well, you missed it.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's what that made me think of, actually.

That there's... that each moment of our life actually can be relational, is meant to be relational, is designed, is brought into creation relationally.

Like we think of creation as a stable state I can't totally say for sure, but my sense is more recently is that creation is happening.

They're being desired and brought along and called into being moment to moment.
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