Aug 12, 2026 · 55 min · 25 segments
This week we're asking what happens when our drive to push ourselves goes too far, and whether we need to rethink our relationship with rest, recovery and our bodies…
Clara HermitHost
Lucy CampbellGuest
I think as I was coming up, like as a teenager, I was told so many times that I would never be able to make it as a professional surfer because I didn't have the image that sponsorship would be looking for.

So kind of then you... sponsorship relied on you to be modelling for their brand as well.

I think as women's sport has been championed across all areas, it's been the same in surfing.

And I think it's so much more... as though having social media, you can control your image so much more and you can have sort of your own brand identity.

I think the sport as a whole is so much more focused on talent or achievements or your style in surfing, whatever it may be.

I think it's still got a long way to come and there's still, I mean, probably in all sports as well, but it has progressed massively over the time that I've been in the sport.

But, you know, it's also that kind of, it's so sad to hear that you as a young person were kind of told, well, actually, no, you don't have the right image to ever make it as a professional.
Because that must have been so disheartening.
And it's just,

Yeah, surely they should want me for my talent rather than the hard work and grit that I'm willing to put in rather than just the way that I look.

I'm really glad to hear that it's changed because it's, you know, I suppose it's...

On the whole, I think for women, we're kind of fed that message from a young age anyway, that our appearance is so important and that we should be so worried about it.

I think I just loved the sport so much that I was just going to do it anyway kind of thing.

I think as I was coming up, like as a teenager, I was told so many times that I would never be able to make it as a professional surfer because I didn't have the image that sponsorship would be looking for.

So kind of then you... sponsorship relied on you to be modelling for their brand as well.

I think as women's sport has been championed across all areas, it's been the same in surfing.

And I think it's so much more... as though having social media, you can control your image so much more and you can have sort of your own brand identity.

I think the sport as a whole is so much more focused on talent or achievements or your style in surfing, whatever it may be.

I think it's still got a long way to come and there's still, I mean, probably in all sports as well, but it has progressed massively over the time that I've been in the sport.

But, you know, it's also that kind of, it's so sad to hear that you as a young person were kind of told, well, actually, no, you don't have the right image to ever make it as a professional.
Because that must have been so disheartening.
And it's just,

Yeah, surely they should want me for my talent rather than the hard work and grit that I'm willing to put in rather than just the way that I look.

I'm really glad to hear that it's changed because it's, you know, I suppose it's...

On the whole, I think for women, we're kind of fed that message from a young age anyway, that our appearance is so important and that we should be so worried about it.

I think I just loved the sport so much that I was just going to do it anyway kind of thing.
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