Oct 5, 2026 · 31 min · 9 segments
In this powerful episode of *What Are You Made Of?*, Mike “C-Roc” sits down with award-winning estate planning and probate attorney, entrepreneur, speaker, author, and business coach Jessica Lynn…
Jessica Lynn SilvaGuest
Mike C-RocHost
And you saying that just shows why I want you in our network, why I want you around me.

I was getting some lunch, and he happened to be staying at the same hotel as me before the event.

And he said to me one time, he's like, you know what? He said, there's somebody that'll say to you, hey, it's business.

And he said that we're all accustomed to hearing that and like, okay, yeah, that's business.

But he said, that's just an excuse for people to act without integrity and justify their non-integral actions.

I agree with that because other countries, they will only do business with those they like and trust and know.

I like to tell people, especially when I speak from stage, because I speak all over the country, I look for people that I want to know about your family.

I want to sit by the fireplace and just talk as well as collaborate, take a stage, do that.

I don't need just to be in a picture with you because you're so rich and famous.

I actually want real relationships, authentic, the behind in front of the camera and behind the camera that I still like you.

We wouldn't burn out so much from business if we would start treating it that way.

And you saying that just shows why I want you in our network, why I want you around me.

I was getting some lunch, and he happened to be staying at the same hotel as me before the event.

And he said to me one time, he's like, you know what? He said, there's somebody that'll say to you, hey, it's business.

And he said that we're all accustomed to hearing that and like, okay, yeah, that's business.

But he said, that's just an excuse for people to act without integrity and justify their non-integral actions.

I agree with that because other countries, they will only do business with those they like and trust and know.

I like to tell people, especially when I speak from stage, because I speak all over the country, I look for people that I want to know about your family.

I want to sit by the fireplace and just talk as well as collaborate, take a stage, do that.

I don't need just to be in a picture with you because you're so rich and famous.

I actually want real relationships, authentic, the behind in front of the camera and behind the camera that I still like you.

We wouldn't burn out so much from business if we would start treating it that way.
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