WASSAP: The Africa-West Asia Podcast
Jun 30, 2026 · 39 min · 11 segments
In this special World Cup episode of the WASSAP podcast, we explore how football is increasingly shaping relations between Africa and the Gulf, from the expanded 2026 tournament to Saudi Arabia’s…
Sebastian SonsGuest
Hubert KinkohGuest
Desiree CustersHost
Hello, everybody, and welcome to the fifth episode of the Wazzap podcast, the Africa West Asia podcast, part of Carpo's West Asia and Sub-Saharan African Partnerships In Flux project.

My name is Desiree Custers, and I'm a project manager with Carpo and your host for today.

As always in this podcast, we're bridging two continents, and today we're bridging them through one of the most powerful languages on the planet, namely football.

We're focusing on the 2026 World Cup, which kicked off earlier in June from the perspective of Gulf countries and the African continent.

and I'm joined by two people who live and breathe football, playing it, analyzing it, and reporting on it.

First, Hubert Kinko, co-host of this podcast and senior researcher at Carpo, and Dr. Sebastian Sons, senior researcher at Carpo specializing in golf politics and sports diplomacy.
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