Utility Safety Podcast by Incident Prevention Magazine
Aug 1, 2026 · 49 min · 12 segments
In this episode of the *Built In, Not Bolted On* podcast, host Doug Hill is joined by co-host Nick to dive into the critical topic of job site preparation and equipment setup in utility operations…
Doug HillHost
Nick LenardiHost
or their coworkers about how this could apply to them because each one of these are not going to be cookie cutter.

There's going to be a lot of things that come out of this that really talk about that.

And what do they say about this? And they say, you know, these, are generally setup related problems.

So they're not the only problem, but they're setup related problems that lead to these unsafe ladder placement or insecure equipment or something that's going to lead to a significant incident.

It also talks a lot about how it's aggregated into all this data to Talk about job site preparation.

So part of how you cure that is you need to start having discussions about what that looks like and not just leave the onus on the worker or just the procedure or some of those types of things, but start talking about what are some of the things that lead up to an improper setup or some of the hazards that we might incur while that's going on.

So hopefully that gives you a little bit of a lead on what I wanted to talk about today.

And, you know, what I heard you say was if we, you know, based on that data from the BLS and OSHA, there's what it sounds like is there's a decent chunk of incidents that can be prevented, which is what we're about.

And I think just being prepared and making sure that, again, even with evolving conditions out there on the job site, you know, weather, as we know, being one of them.

And, you know, it's good to do a debrief, right? But it's too late at that point to change anything for that specific job.

And we generally try to say, hey, you know, if the worker had followed the rules or used proper gear or these types of things that wouldn't have happened.

And I think we're getting past that in the safety realm to say, hey, there's deeper things to talk about.

Like you really got to start thinking about that explanation doesn't really take you far enough because you're actually going to stop at the event where the person had an event and you're not going to get those deeper questions about what systems, planning tools, the safeguards, the things that you do to influence that How did we actually perform those? And then what could we do better? Or what could we duplicate that we already done really, really well, which is also another human and organizational performance base about that.

And what should that make us think about? Or what are the things that we should think about when we're setting up jobs and start having those conversations saying, maybe you and I got the procedure right, based on the way it was written.

But if five people did that procedure, would they all come to the same conclusion and get it right? Or does that leave it open for interpretation? Do we have some ways to do that? So when we're talking about setting up our jobs, it's more than just setting up a truck or setting up a ladder or setting up our PPE.

or their coworkers about how this could apply to them because each one of these are not going to be cookie cutter.

There's going to be a lot of things that come out of this that really talk about that.

And what do they say about this? And they say, you know, these, are generally setup related problems.

So they're not the only problem, but they're setup related problems that lead to these unsafe ladder placement or insecure equipment or something that's going to lead to a significant incident.

It also talks a lot about how it's aggregated into all this data to Talk about job site preparation.

So part of how you cure that is you need to start having discussions about what that looks like and not just leave the onus on the worker or just the procedure or some of those types of things, but start talking about what are some of the things that lead up to an improper setup or some of the hazards that we might incur while that's going on.

So hopefully that gives you a little bit of a lead on what I wanted to talk about today.

And, you know, what I heard you say was if we, you know, based on that data from the BLS and OSHA, there's what it sounds like is there's a decent chunk of incidents that can be prevented, which is what we're about.

And I think just being prepared and making sure that, again, even with evolving conditions out there on the job site, you know, weather, as we know, being one of them.

And, you know, it's good to do a debrief, right? But it's too late at that point to change anything for that specific job.

And we generally try to say, hey, you know, if the worker had followed the rules or used proper gear or these types of things that wouldn't have happened.

And I think we're getting past that in the safety realm to say, hey, there's deeper things to talk about.

Like you really got to start thinking about that explanation doesn't really take you far enough because you're actually going to stop at the event where the person had an event and you're not going to get those deeper questions about what systems, planning tools, the safeguards, the things that you do to influence that How did we actually perform those? And then what could we do better? Or what could we duplicate that we already done really, really well, which is also another human and organizational performance base about that.

And what should that make us think about? Or what are the things that we should think about when we're setting up jobs and start having those conversations saying, maybe you and I got the procedure right, based on the way it was written.

But if five people did that procedure, would they all come to the same conclusion and get it right? Or does that leave it open for interpretation? Do we have some ways to do that? So when we're talking about setting up our jobs, it's more than just setting up a truck or setting up a ladder or setting up our PPE.
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