Sep 6, 2026 · 39 min · 11 segments
Nobody trains you for the hardest part of managing people. Ian Moyse has been on both sides of it, an employee hiding a bereavement from his manager, and the manager who nearly reached for the process…
Ian MoyseGuest
Randip SinghHost
Thinking about well-being, leading into that, we've talked a little bit there about mental well-being.
I know you're busy, as many leaders are, but also with your governance activities and kids.
How do you prioritize your well-being? How do you fit it in? And what are you focused on at the moment? What I started doing
when I went through that and I saw, like you, a bereavement counselor, and they started to get similar suggestions.
Just something that is simple, but getting fresh air and getting away from the screener.
Because you touched on early on, and it's in the press a lot, there was a lot of mental negativity or mental strain caused by screen time, depending what you're doing, right? Particularly with social media and the world is perfect and everyone else has a perfect life because not many post the bad stuff, right? Here's all the shiny stuff.
sets the bar higher than reality and for a while I did when I could fit it in particularly when I had time out I went to exercise classes religiously and that got a little bit addictive sometimes three in a day but you're right it It kicks in the endorphins and differently, right? You feel it's hard work, but you feel an upper and it refreshes the mind.
So I think that would be my big one is get away from screens and just get out and get some fresh air and just get more of a balance.
The other thing I find with a dog and mental well-being is seeing a member of my family that greets me as though I've been away for a month every time I kind of come into the room, the tail's wagging.
My wife's busy with her thing, but Nugget will come as though, you know, I've been away for a month and literally all I've done is come from the office and into the kitchen and she's there wagging her tail.
Thinking about well-being, leading into that, we've talked a little bit there about mental well-being.
I know you're busy, as many leaders are, but also with your governance activities and kids.
How do you prioritize your well-being? How do you fit it in? And what are you focused on at the moment? What I started doing
when I went through that and I saw, like you, a bereavement counselor, and they started to get similar suggestions.
Just something that is simple, but getting fresh air and getting away from the screener.
Because you touched on early on, and it's in the press a lot, there was a lot of mental negativity or mental strain caused by screen time, depending what you're doing, right? Particularly with social media and the world is perfect and everyone else has a perfect life because not many post the bad stuff, right? Here's all the shiny stuff.
sets the bar higher than reality and for a while I did when I could fit it in particularly when I had time out I went to exercise classes religiously and that got a little bit addictive sometimes three in a day but you're right it It kicks in the endorphins and differently, right? You feel it's hard work, but you feel an upper and it refreshes the mind.
So I think that would be my big one is get away from screens and just get out and get some fresh air and just get more of a balance.
The other thing I find with a dog and mental well-being is seeing a member of my family that greets me as though I've been away for a month every time I kind of come into the room, the tail's wagging.
My wife's busy with her thing, but Nugget will come as though, you know, I've been away for a month and literally all I've done is come from the office and into the kitchen and she's there wagging her tail.
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